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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby gwolf666 » 03 Oct 2024, 19:27

Netherrealmer wrote:Most of the time they go politically incorrect since they hire white actors to play POC people. Hollywood almost made a biopic of Harriet Tubman starring Julia Roberts.

Tubman was a former slave who escaped and helped many African Americans escape the States where slavery is legal.
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LOL Hollywood Producers thinks Julia Roberts will be a good Harriet Tubman...
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Thankfully it didn't happen and a Harriet Tubman movie with a Black actress happened instead.
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I totally agree with you, it is! It is extremely racist to cast a white actress to play someone black and I think the same thing when they cast a black actor to play a white character in a live action anime, what the hell is happening to them? Put the black in a black character and the white in a white character and that's it, it's logical, they want to implement "equality and inclusion" by force and end up doing extremely racist things
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby cmoneyspinner » 03 Oct 2024, 21:08

So many movies changed the facts of real life because they figure they are boring and won't sell. What I want to know is do they need to get permission from the real people. I get that they can't get permission from dead people like Madame Walker.

But I remember when people tried to use Bruce Lee's image to promote an alcoholic beverage and his family jumped all over them.

So like for Argo, was Mr. Mendez cool with Ben Affleck playing the part?

FYI: When J-Lo did Selena, some people were upset that a Puerto Rican was playing a Mexican. But Selena's family was fine with it and gave her their blessing. She did a good job, by the way!

But I think you can cast anybody to play any part and get away with it because all you have to say is that it's "based on a true story". Not that it's true. But that it's "based on truth". Isn't that how they get around it?
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby augusta » 23 Oct 2024, 00:43

ptrikha21 wrote:Indeed, some movies make real life folks appear so different on the screen. We had some movies based on the life of some people.
Some were realistic, others made the person look so different from the real life one.


Yeah that's movies for you. in sound of music real life maria was a very strict lady though she was portray a cool person in the movie. you might just have to be another person entirely in a movie
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby arunima » 15 Jan 2025, 17:32

Creative license of the movie makers allow them to make a few changes..well that's adding drama and special twists to attract business at box office.
The Sound of Music is my all time favourites. I can watch ot any time.
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby cmoneyspinner » 15 Jan 2025, 22:06

Whenever I watch a movie supposedly based on history or a true story, I never believe the depiction is the truth.

Sometimes I think they try to stick close to the truth.

But often if they know that people think of the person as a hero and their personal life has some low or dark points, they rewrite their life story by erasing those dots on their timeline.

Because in the end, it's for entertainment!
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby peachpurple » 16 Jan 2025, 01:21

In order to attract viewers, directors have to change and add on different strokes into real stories
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby arunima » 18 Jan 2025, 09:27

I am happy that they did make that change and replaced Julia Roberts with some actress of colours. She was fighting slavery. A white woman playing that role would be ridiculous. And if they tried to make Julia dark skinned with make up, that would have been even more ridiculous. When there are real actresses of colours available, one would do the right thing to cast them.
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby eldavis » 18 Jan 2025, 18:41

Yea they usually tend to make certain changes just to fit their target audience or so it won't cause any issues.
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby Netherrealmer » 19 Jan 2025, 15:32

arunima wrote:I am happy that they did make that change and replaced Julia Roberts with some actress of colours. She was fighting slavery. A white woman playing that role would be ridiculous. And if they tried to make Julia dark skinned with make up, that would have been even more ridiculous. When there are real actresses of colours available, one would do the right thing to cast them.


This is what it would have looked like if the Julia Roberts movie had happened. :lol:

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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby cmoneyspinner » 19 Jan 2025, 22:29

arunima wrote:When there are real actresses of colours available, one would do the right thing to cast them.


I get what you're saying. One of my favorite TV detectives is Charlie Chan. The guy who played Charlie Chan is not Chinese. When the TV show Kung Fu was released, it was annoying that David Carridine had the lead role, when it was Bruce Lee's idea.
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby germainebull » 30 Jan 2025, 02:33

"Argo" is indeed based on the true story of CIA officer Tony Mendez, who played a crucial role in the rescue of six American diplomats during the Iran hostage crisis. Ben Affleck, who directed and starred in the film, took some creative liberties with the casting and portrayal of characters. While Tony Mendez was of Mexican descent, Affleck's casting choices and the film's depiction have sparked discussions about representation in Hollywood.

It's important to recognize the broader issue of accurate representation and diversity in media. Casting decisions can significantly impact how stories are perceived and whose voices are amplified. The conversation around "Argo" highlights the need for more inclusive and authentic storytelling in the film industry.
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby arunima » 30 Jan 2025, 14:41

It's okay if a little bit of things are changed and that is harmless. This might be to make the movie more entertaining and appealing to audience. This is a good use of the creative license. But then there are cases where this freedom is taken too far and the changes change the real crux of the story and the character. Few of these have faced legal complications too
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby cmoneyspinner » 30 Jan 2025, 20:53

germainebull wrote:Tony Mendez was of Mexican descent,


But do you really have to have get Mexicans play Mexicans? It's acting! And we have all kinds of make-up to change the way people look.

That's one argument.

But then there is also the argument about representation. Did a Mexican audition who was perfectly suited for the role, but he still didn't get the part? The next question is WHY? Was it discrimination or a different reason else? Like the person could be a jerk to work with. But of course, if you're Affleck you won't publicize that. You'll just pick an actor who auditioned who was also perfect for the part.

Because in the end, in the American entertainment industry, the only color that matters is GREEN!!

To quote Denzel Washington: "If a movie about an armadillo could make money, they would make a movie about an armadillo."
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby Jem Smith » 30 Jan 2025, 23:54

It's particularly crappy to hire a white actor to play a black character when that character is based on an actual person who was black. Especially someone of historical importance who was a major figure in the civil rights movement like Harriet Tubman!
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Re: Lies of many "true to life" movies and tv shows

Postby Netherrealmer » 31 Jan 2025, 09:30

I hope Monster season 3 wont make a sympathetic human out of Ed Gein.
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