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Because of Internet and streaming service, Asia is the future mainstream not Hollywood

Postby Netherrealmer » 12 Jun 2021, 18:18

For almost a century the most mainstream entertainment industries are Hollywood, British Cinema, and Maybe Latin media. These have ruled Movies, television, and Music. I think in 5 decades Asia will be the mainstream. Why? American content had become so woke that there is too much identity politics. Audiences wanted to be entertained and not be lectured with Social science.

At certain point many countries have American shows on their primetime block. Not Anymore.

Hollywood use to be seen as Number one but there are now Indian and Chinese movies that make more money than Hollywood movies for just a lower budget. The Chinese movie Hi Mom made US$848.4 million for a very low budget.

Let's start with India and China. These countries don't need to export their movies to make billions in the box office and make billions of dollars from the charts. Both are Billion dollar industries on their own but not as internationally mainstream. Hong Kong has its movie industry and at a certain point Hong Kong Kung-fu movies were kinda mainstream but China's movie industry is different from Hong Kong. China only exports its content to Chinese diasporas, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. The Chinese film industry is worth $22 Billion.

Many people thought Indian movies are Bollywood only but India has multiple movie industries that speak different languages and is marketed for different ethnicities in India. It will take forever if I explain them one by one but here is the complete list of Indian movie industries marketed for different languages and ethnic groups in India:
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Indian movies are thriving the last decade that there are Indian actors who paid higher than Hollywood stars. The Indian film industry is worth $3.7 billion as of 2020. India's market outside India is Indian diaspora around the world, South Asian countries, the middle east, Indonesia, and the UK. I know people use to make memes with the bad special effects of old Bollywood movies but current Indian movies can compete with the US when it comes to CGI technology and cinematography. Indian movies are now in 4k graphics. The Pandemic did make Indian movies suffer but they now stream them in online services.

Now let's talk about Japan, Japanese live-action movies and shows are not their biggest export. It's their video games, Anime, and comic books. Mangas are selling better in the US than Marvel because Marvel's content has been garbage lately. Demon Slayer Anime movie dominated the movie charts at a certain point. Netflix created an Anime division because Anime is highly streamed around the world. Latin America is crazy about their Anime especially their local content is nothing but Telenovelas. To make sure they will not run out of ideas there are now Anime adapted from Non-Japanese materials. Japan also does well with its videogames and the videogame industry is now bigger than the movie and music industry combined. More people watched The videogame awards than Golden Globes or grammies last year.



A lot of Live-action American shows on streaming services got canceled but Netflix Anime have more success. It is a 24 Billion dollar industry. Yes, Anime is bigger than the Chinese film industry. Japan is an underpopulated country but it managed to get a market in the US, Europe, and Latin America.


Southeast Asia is also on the rise. Thailand's television industry got mainstream attention because they make Gay romance content or BL. Teenage girls like seeing two handsome boys in love. Thailand uploads these contents with English subtitles on Youtube and Facebook and they got millions of views. Then they are making content now for social media. These Gay romance shows is not even watched by gay men, they are watched by teenage girls around the world. Even girls from countries where these contents are banned are watching them. These got so popular that there is a Thai TV Network that makes mostly BL. Since these shows are marketed to young girls, they are not pornographic. They are mostly PG 13.

The Philippines can find Markets in Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Latin America. The Tv network from this country exports their completed dramas to these countries and they are doing well. They are also exported in neighboring South East Asian countries. Their shows are Melodramatic and similar to Latin dramas because they were influenced by Mexican and Venezuelan shows during the 90s. Lately, they evolve to become marketable to Africa, Latin America, and even South Pacific Islands. The Philippines also got the attention of Latin American countries when they started winning Pageants. Pageants are big in Latin America so that made Latinos curious for Filipinos.

Thailand and the Philippines use Mixed race actors and actresses with Eurocentric features. So marketing to Latin America, Africa, and Eastern Europe is easy for them.


Now there is South Korea. South Korea is dominating Music charts around the world even in the US. US use to be so snobbish to Asian acts that mixed raced Asian Singers have to pass as white to chart in the US.

Even some of their movies are now reaching Hollywood levels at the box office. South Korea is even winning Oscars lately. Streaming services are doing well with Korean dramas. Netflix now added a dub option aside from subtitles in different languages. Streaming services thought Korean dramas will be watched by Asian Americans but they are wrong. White people and Latinos are the ones watching them.


Why?

Their content is secular enough for the liberals and wholesome enough for the conservatives. Hollywood lately had been alienating and demonizing the conservative Americans. There is too much identity politics with American content. Conservatives love the fact that Korean dramas are not spammed with sex scenes. They do have sex scenes but not as borderline porno-like American content. Liberals also like it because they see a story from a different culture.

Though India and China make more money, I see South Korea as the future of the entertainment industry. The government support that's why their content quality increased. They are better at marketing and they try to balance their content for all political beliefs.


Technology made the world smaller. The west cannot find Asian content in the past because there is Internet but now Asian content is at the comfort of their homes.
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Re: Because of Internet and streaming service, Asia is the future mainstream not Hollywood

Postby cmoneyspinner » 12 Jun 2021, 22:29

I don't doubt your prediction. If it weren't for my husband, I may not have ever known how much more entertaining non-American movies and TV shows are. Plus, thanks to Netflix I get to watch African, Indian, Turkish, Israeli, etc. I never had that kind of exposure when I was growing up. It's like a whole new world!
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Re: Because of Internet and streaming service, Asia is the future mainstream not Hollywood

Postby Mika » 13 Jun 2021, 08:36

When most countries watch Hollywood, India produces enough movies for its 1.2 billion people. India is a huge market. However, Indian movies do not have good content. If anyone wants to debate let's debate on this topic.
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Postby ptrikha21 » 13 Jun 2021, 10:31

Wow! This is arguably the best article on the upcoming Movies domination. Yes Indian movies are much more than just the Hindi Bollywood movies.
Plus we now have shows like "The Family Man" being streamed and people like these a lot.
However, I have a bias towards many Indian movies of 1980s, 90s and early 2000s as they had a bigger entertainment value, as well as for Hollywood movies of 1990s.
I am yet to watch South Korean shows although I have heard about them a lot.
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Re: Because of Internet and streaming service, Asia is the future mainstream not Hollywood

Postby Netherrealmer » 13 Jun 2021, 16:02

Mika wrote:When most countries watch Hollywood, India produces enough movies for its 1.2 billion people. India is a huge market. However, Indian movies do not have good content. If anyone wants to debate let's debate on this topic.


Hollywood had been alienating the international market lately though. The content had been too woke and there is too much conservative shaming.

Imagine you just want to watch a comedy so you decided to watch an American sitcom and the episode ends with the lead female feeling empowered because she got an abortion. I am pro-choice but I don think thats a content I want to see if I want to watch a comedy.

A lot of American shows will be banned in Africa because almost every American show right now have conservative shaming and way too liberal. I mean they have gay characters in children's shows now.

I have nothing against it but I can see why this cartoon will be banned in Africa and middle east.
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For now Hollywood is still mainstream but they are now alienating half of the World's population.
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Postby MysticMoons » 13 Jun 2021, 20:13

If Asia is going to the be future i really hope Japanese horror is part of this. But even in the early 2000s you could see Asian horror rise. The remakes of The RIng, The Grudge, The Eye, and The Phone to name a few. Plus James Wan producer of Insidious and Conjuring is Asian. Which makes me think Asian horror is the future. Because america horror is mostly all remakes , with a few good indie films here and there. but really they have been milking Indious and Conjuring for the last 10 years.. i would love to see more Japanese horror remakes like the ring. even though we recently got the RINGS movie.
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Re: Because of Internet and streaming service, Asia is the future mainstream not Hollywood

Postby Netherrealmer » 14 Jun 2021, 10:52

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The Japanese struggles with live action though. Currently South Korea dominates horror too with their hits like Sweethome, Kingdom,train to busan and Parasite that won an Oscar.

When it comes to streaming services Japan does well with Anime while Korea goes well with live action.
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Postby crestcapital » 14 Jun 2021, 11:52

I don't really like watching america movies. I like watching India movies because they've got stories
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 15 Jun 2021, 22:30

Netherrealmer wrote:When it comes to streaming services Japan does well with Anime while Korea goes well with live action.


That's very true. My daughters are into anime series but I prefer Korean series. Although horror is not really my thing. But there is a clear dividing line. Korea has some anime but Japan is way ahead on this.

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Postby bestwriter » 16 Jun 2021, 03:16

Not a surprising prediction though Look at the genres and adding them all up along with the number of countries Hollywood sure has to move over.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 17 Jun 2021, 21:15

Hollywood knew they had to move over when Bollywood started rising. I knew something was up when I started seeing Indian movies that were showing 20th Century Fox instead of Eros. I knew Hollywood had moved in on the Hindi entertainment.


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"Fox Star Studios is a motion picture production and distribution company from India founded in March 2008. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of Star India, part of the Walt Disney Direct-to-Consumer and International segment of The Walt Disney Company.

Fox Star Studios produces Hindi, Tamil, Malayalam and other South Asian language films through acquisitions, co-productions and in-house productions for worldwide distribution. It also distributed English films produced by 20th Century Studios' divisions in India.

Despite other segments of The Walt Disney Company receiving new names to remove references to Fox (such as 20th Century Studios), Fox Star Studios' name hasn't changed."


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Postby Netherrealmer » 18 Jun 2021, 06:16

Mika wrote:When most countries watch Hollywood, India produces enough movies for its 1.2 billion people. India is a huge market. However, Indian movies do not have good content. If anyone wants to debate let's debate on this topic.


Indian movies outside Bollywood are good. Not all Indian movies are musical. Mollywood and Kollywood doesn't use eurocentric looking actors, They use dark skinned actors and some of their movies don't have song and dance numbers. Indian movies uses Hollywood level CGI now because they became a Billion dollar industry now.

Netflix is also making Indian originals now that shows culture Bollywood doesnt represent.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 19 Jun 2021, 18:30

Netherrealmer wrote:Indian movies outside Bollywood are good. Not all Indian movies are musical. Mollywood and Kollywood doesn't use eurocentric looking actors, They use dark skinned actors and some of their movies don't have song and dance numbers. Indian movies uses Hollywood level CGI now because they became a Billion dollar industry now.

Netflix is also making Indian originals now that shows culture Bollywood doesnt represent.


That's true. My lat husband often scoured the Internet for Tamil and Teluga movies with English subtitles. We enjoyed watching them too.
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Postby MysticMoons » 20 Jun 2021, 19:44

Netherrealmer wrote:@MysticMoons
The Japanese struggles with live action though. Currently South Korea dominates horror too with their hits like Sweethome, Kingdom,train to busan and Parasite that won an Oscar.

When it comes to streaming services Japan does well with Anime while Korea goes well with live action.


I really want more stuff like Ring, does Korea does that? What about Pulse? i think that was a Korean horror movie I love that movie. The style from asia is like so lonely, dark and creepy.. like they really make you feel alone and dread in those movies. American horror is to much action with a guy with a chainsaw chasing people lol to much action.. i love the asian style cause the ghosts get in your head.. and he scenes are so creepy.. grudge still scares me. And really want to see the new RINGS movie even though it didnt get good reviews..

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Also the Japanese version of The Eye is so scary!
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Postby Mika » 21 Jun 2021, 05:51

American shows can become absurd sometimes. I quite did not understand what the creator wanted to show when they make the Goddesses in Lucifer talk about sex with humans.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 27 Jun 2021, 22:43

Mika wrote:American shows can become absurd sometimes. I quite did not understand what the creator wanted to show when they make the Goddesses in Lucifer talk about sex with humans.


Uummm ... that's what they did in Greek mythology. :lol:
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Postby anilmr » 29 Jun 2021, 05:34

That's a very insightful article. And, hats of to you, for having such in-depth information on Indian cinema.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 25 Oct 2021, 23:58

Mika wrote:American shows can become absurd sometimes. I quite did not understand what the creator wanted to show when they make the Goddesses in Lucifer talk about sex with humans.


Another reason why Hollywood content starting to alienates the world. Riverdale is a TV show for 13 year old girls and it has more sex than an R18 Korean movie.If I want sex on the screen, I will watch porn not a PG 13 drama for kids.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 26 Oct 2021, 21:29

Netherrealmer wrote:Another reason why Hollywood content starting to alienates the world. Riverdale is a TV show for 13 year old girls and it has more sex than an R18 Korean movie.If I want sex on the screen, I will watch porn not a PG 13 drama for kids.


AMEN! I don't know what is going on in the minds of these people who approve such content but when I hear those stories by people who are now adults who say when they were child stars they were sexually molested and abused by a director or a producer or whoever had full and free access to them, I believe every word they say.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 04 Sep 2022, 06:42

Also American tv networks and streaming platforms loves cancelling shows! In the middle of a cliffhanger! Korean dramas are always intended to be Miniseries that's why they have closure on season ends. Fans gets closure regardless if the show is a hit of flop.
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