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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Netherrealmer » 13 Jul 2022, 00:09

peachpurple wrote:When a party is willing to pay bribery to buy votes, it is difficult for non corrupt party to win. Humans are blinded by greed


Parties don't even need to bribe voters anymore. All they need now are full time trolls who will spread lies on facebook, twitter, tiktok and Youtube. It is much more cheaper and effective.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 13 Jul 2022, 19:31

Netherrealmer wrote:Parties don't even need to bribe voters anymore. All they need now are full time trolls who will spread lies on facebook, twitter, tiktok and Youtube. It is much more cheaper and effective.


That seems to be the way it is working in the USA. Thank goodness there are many voters who don't pay attention to trolls. If they had paid attention to the trolls, some of the states that Trump lost during his reelection bid, he would have won; especially the state of Georgia, where he made false accusations about the volunteer workers who worked at the voting places.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Viastra » 13 Jul 2022, 20:28

I just finished an article that investigates the history of bribery and other corrupt practices by world politicians. I discovered that the most upright-looking leaders were corrupt in some way or the other. The good guys never always win, and in politics, people accept that there is no 'good man' running. They just vote for the candidate who was able to better convince them.
US politics is a lot easier to win. Firstly, there are the GOP states and the DEM states that always vote that way, doesn't matter how corrupt the candidate is, they will spin a magic wand to make him look good.
Secondly, there are the independent states which vote for their benefits and needs. So a charismatic opponent may lose to a bumble bee offering solutions.
Thirdly, there are the silent voters. These are the minority ethnic groups, such as Latinos, afro-Americans, etc. These voters are looking for specific issue promises. So be it a very obviously corrupt candidate or his invisible corrupt opponent, the proposer that promises to solve or address these issues, will win.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby ArtemTerekhov » 14 Jul 2022, 11:42

Are they? Don't think that Volodimir Zelensky is corrupted. he built his own bussiness and was a reach man when participated in presidetial elections.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Netherrealmer » 14 Jul 2022, 12:37

ArtemTerekhov wrote:Are they? Don't think that Volodimir Zelensky is corrupted. he built his own bussiness and was a reach man when participated in presidetial elections.
we are talking about the majority of nations. Look at the clowns America has been electing
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby ArtemTerekhov » 04 Sep 2022, 06:18

Netherrealmer wrote:we are talking about the majority of nations.

Ok then.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Netherrealmer » 28 Sep 2022, 16:55

Also look at Putin
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 30 Sep 2022, 19:33

Netherrealmer wrote:Also look at Putin


Putin for sure did not play fair. Because once he got himself elected, he kept changing the laws in order to allow him to stay in power. I'm sure that was his long-term plan all along. Too bad the voters could not predict that.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Mika » 03 Apr 2024, 15:23

You need money to win the elections. You need money to market yourself as the right candidate, you need money to run ad campaigns. Since you spend a lot of money in elections, after winning elections, you end up manipulating the state's resources.
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Re: Why non corrupt politicians always lost elections?

Postby Fergal » 27 Apr 2024, 05:21

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