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If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby MysticMoons » 26 Jul 2021, 02:44

I think now that article posts are not worth much and less people might write articles. I think that it would be good for the value of posts to go up. Or at least make it so 20 posts are well paid daily. What do you all think? I think this would be good and attract more posters.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby bestwriter » 26 Jul 2021, 03:29

Normally Sites like this do not have an article writing section. One gets paid for the normal interaction. There are Sites where one posts only articles.

Having said that although it did disappoint me when the change took place my thinking is something is better than nothing. I do not have to run around getting views as earlier it depended on 20 comments and 300 views to get qualified to get those additional 100 FCs But now if Admin finds the article worthwhile one can straight away earn those `125 FCs.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby Fergal » 26 Jul 2021, 05:50

MysticMoons wrote: I think that it would be good for the value of posts to go up. Or at least make it so 20 posts are well paid daily.

Thanks for the suggestion MysticMoons, I also think that would be a good idea and it would make ForumCoin more popular. Only issue is, we already pay out a lot more than we take in on advertising revenue. If we can figure out a way to meet the extra cost of what you are suggesting, I would be delighted to make the increases you are suggesting.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby arunima » 26 Jul 2021, 05:56

It was a bit of setback when the article pay rate was reduced. But then a site has to look at the sustainable way to run the site. It can pay according to the revenues that it generates. The suggestion sounds good for the users here but the decision will depend on the site owners. They would be the right person to do the calculation and make a decision. The site has to opt for a profitable mode to run in the long term.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby sprite1950 » 26 Jul 2021, 06:23

Fergal wrote:
MysticMoons wrote: I think that it would be good for the value of posts to go up. Or at least make it so 20 posts are well paid daily.

Thanks for the suggestion MysticMoons, I also think that would be a good idea and it would make ForumCoin more popular. Only issue is, we already pay out a lot more than we take in on advertising revenue. If we can figure out a way to meet the extra cost of what you are suggesting, I would be delighted to make the increases you are suggesting.


What most people don't realise is it's expensive to fund a forum. Rates are reduced to keep it stable and I'm sure most of us here would rather that than see ForumCoin disappear.

When I first came here rates were quite a bit higher but Fergal explained that he had to adjust them to keep the forum running. Some people left but new posters took their place accepting the rates and the old ones were forgotten. No one is indispensable here and no one is forcing us to stay.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby raaman » 26 Jul 2021, 07:37

bestwriter wrote:But now if Admin finds the article worthwhile one can straight away earn those `125 FCs.

What if the admin did not find the article worthwhile? And, do you think that the admin will find all the articles written by a particular writer worthwhile and keep on paying those extra 125 FCs to that particular writer?
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby bestwriter » 26 Jul 2021, 08:18

raaman wrote:
bestwriter wrote:But now if Admin finds the article worthwhile one can straight away earn those `125 FCs.

What if the admin did not find the article worthwhile? And, do you think that the admin will find all the articles written by a particular writer worthwhile and keep on paying those extra 125 FCs to that particular writer?


How many articles have received 20 comments and got 300 views? The writer posts and Admin decides. I find this method relaxing
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby CyberFreak » 26 Jul 2021, 08:32

Ultimately it is extremely difficult to have an ideal method to rate articles and reward fair rewards for the quality of articles. With the older rewards system, it made it purely down to the popularity of the article and it as a fixed criteria based only on popularity and not about the article itself. On the surface you may think "If an article is popular and generating alot of discussions then it must be a good article" but in reality the popularity of articles can be based on many factors. Some topics appeals to some people more than others, some users are "friends" and therefore prefer to help out their "friends" by replying and also if alot of articles are posted in a short space of time, some articles may be buried quickly.

The new method allows us to take popularity into account but also factor in the article itself. How well written it is, how useful it is? etc. It allows a much better and fairer way to reward users and encourage users to post quality and not quantity. Yes it may be viewed that we are doing this to cut costs or that we are going to favour certain people but in the end of the day 1) It is optional and not the only way to earn here and 2) it encourages better articles and therefore if you do write better articles, you have more chance of being rewarded as you don't run the risk of writing an epic article and no one replying.

It is by no means perfect but I think it is an overall fairer method for everyone.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby Netherrealmer » 26 Jul 2021, 10:21

Monetized articles is worth 125 fc now though, so it is still not that bad
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby raaman » 26 Jul 2021, 10:43

bestwriter wrote:How many articles have received 20 comments and got 300 views?

That's true, but now, since the criteria to pay articles has been changed, the concept of 20 comments and 300 views is no more valid, I think.
bestwriter wrote:The writer posts and Admin decides.

That's true. Man proposes and God disposes. In the final analysis, who all wins, only time will tell. :)
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby MysticMoons » 26 Jul 2021, 22:04

Fergal wrote:
MysticMoons wrote: I think that it would be good for the value of posts to go up. Or at least make it so 20 posts are well paid daily.

Thanks for the suggestion MysticMoons, I also think that would be a good idea and it would make ForumCoin more popular. Only issue is, we already pay out a lot more than we take in on advertising revenue. If we can figure out a way to meet the extra cost of what you are suggesting, I would be delighted to make the increases you are suggesting.


Ok I also have an idea. With articles lets say if I can get the things I post to get a lot of outside traffic and gain revenue would that help? I am sure i can links on here a lot of views, I do for my podcasts and blogs. Then yes the revenue needs to go up for sure

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Netherrealmer wrote:Monetized articles is worth 125 fc now though, so it is still not that bad



but how many views do we need? Can i promote and just get outside views? I think comment should not even be a thing that that is just inside traffic.. what earns more is outside views right? If i can get a lot of outside traffic to the posts that earns more? Fergal says we need more revenue... so i think views is what earns more right?

Ok I will still try the articles. If I know how many views I need, and if outside traffic counts then it would be good way to earn, and more revenue for the site I think.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby Netherrealmer » 27 Jul 2021, 03:44

People are getting monetized for less views and comments now, As long as Fergal likes the article.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby bestwriter » 27 Jul 2021, 04:39

The day my article gets approved with few comments and not many views I will open a bottle of champagne :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby arunima » 27 Jul 2021, 06:30

Netherrealmer wrote:People are getting monetized for less views and comments now, As long as Fergal likes the article.

That would be fair and really a welcome way. Not all articles get views and comments despite being a quality one. This one is a good way to promote people writing quality articles. I do not get many views and comments on my articles.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby Fergal » 27 Jul 2021, 06:45

MysticMoons wrote:but how many views do we need?

We do factor in how many views the article has had and the more views an article has, the more likely it is to receive the ForumCoin bonus. However, as has already been said, views are not the only factor, hence there isn't a set number of views that automatically qualifies an article for the reward.
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby Netherrealmer » 31 Jul 2021, 13:41

@MysticMoons Mika just got monetized today for an article with 4 comments only, That is very encouraging
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Re: If article posts are only worth 25 cents now shouldn't regular posts be worth more?

Postby chikitta » 02 Aug 2021, 12:14

It's obviously not an easy task, but am sure the admin is doing what they can to keep the site afloat, and also trying to award people in a way that will not make a writer take off and leave the site.
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