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Do You Care Enough?

Postby IcyFirefly » 30 Sep 2016, 14:20

If you are here to post to earn a little bit of money, do you care enough to write a decent post to keep ForumCoin in the quality level? These past two weeks, I have come across many "one liner" posts, plus posts that have no relevant to the subject from new and old users just the same.

With PostLoop shutting down, and ForumCoin is now opened for more posts, I am getting a bit leery. I like ForumCoin and the friendly community we have here; and I want it to last a long time. Not only for the earnings, but a place for us to share information.

So please care enough to start a thread or commenting with a bit of value or weight since your user's name said a lot about yourself! You can hate me all you want, but there are days when I really just want to pull my hair out :(
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 30 Sep 2016, 14:56

I don't think ForumCoin will be shutting down any time soon but I understand what you are saying about quality posts.

Sometimes I feel it is not so much a quality problem as language. ForumCoin is open to international users so their English may not be as good as someone from the UK or US, but most of the posters here are able to make themselves understood and I think ForumCoin takes into consideration that for a number of members here English is not their first language.

I don't feel particularly stressed about the posts that go up here as I think most people do their best and if they are spamming the place Fergal, Cyberfreak or one of the moderators will take care of it.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Lexi » 30 Sep 2016, 15:34

I do care enough, especially when people make my threads look spammy and messy! :o

While none of us want to be patrol guards, there are standards, and when people abuse them I get miffed. It's not always the language barrier, as American English is different to British English, and we adjust accordingly. I would hate to see a site fail because people took advantage of a site and had little respect for others.

I'll be honest, when I first saw this site over 18 months ago, all I could see was spammy type responses and threads and I didn't want to join. First impressions count, so if you wish the community and forum to thrive, you need to take care of it. I only returned to look because @angie10 was talking about it (again) and then I saw another familiar face (Icy) and thought if she is here, it can't be bad. :lol:
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Fergal » 30 Sep 2016, 17:50

Thanks for your support, in addition to making quality posts on the forum, members can also help greatly by reporting posts that you feel are of poor quality. Once you report a post a forum staff member will look at the post and deal with the issue. Reported posts aren't public and other members (including the member who made the post that is being reported) will never know who, if anyone, reported their post.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby makeinst » 30 Sep 2016, 20:34

I give the best from myself to write a best quality post, however English is not my first language , but I know well on communication lever. This forum is very good, people are friendly , if I don`t understand something they wanna answer and help if they are active.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 01 Oct 2016, 07:20

Lexi wrote:I do care enough, especially when people make my threads look spammy and messy! :o

While none of us want to be patrol guards, there are standards, and when people abuse them I get miffed. It's not always the language barrier, as American English is different to British English, and we adjust accordingly. I would hate to see a site fail because people took advantage of a site and had little respect for others.

I'll be honest, when I first saw this site over 18 months ago, all I could see was spammy type responses and
threads and I didn't want to join. First impressions count, so if you wish the community and forum to thrive, you need to take care of it. I only returned to look because @angie10 was talking about it (again) and then I saw another familiar face (Icy) and thought if she is here, it can't be bad. :lol:


Wow, remind me not to make a typo on one of your pages , I wouldn't want to mess them up. :roll:

This forum has outlived other forums, spammy or not. It is for people of all ages, abilities and nationalities so perhaps it won't be as perfect as you would like it to be. If you want to put people off posting on your threads you're going the right way about it. Some of your comments are not cool, in fact I find them quite offensive, not for myself as I'm confident enough to be able to deal with your remarks but for some of the others who may not come up to your "standards" . Postloop was supposed to be a high quality posting place and look what has happened to that. Give me a forum like this one any day.

It's not that I don't care, of course I do, but I also have respect for the feelings of other people and although there have been a few spammy posts here and there I don't feel it's a general thing. Rant over :)
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Lexi » 01 Oct 2016, 08:02

sprite1950 wrote:
Lexi wrote:I do care enough, especially when people make my threads look spammy and messy! :o

While none of us want to be patrol guards, there are standards, and when people abuse them I get miffed. It's not always the language barrier, as American English is different to British English, and we adjust accordingly. I would hate to see a site fail because people took advantage of a site and had little respect for others.

I'll be honest, when I first saw this site over 18 months ago, all I could see was spammy type responses and
threads and I didn't want to join. First impressions count, so if you wish the community and forum to thrive, you need to take care of it. I only returned to look because @angie10 was talking about it (again) and then I saw another familiar face (Icy) and thought if she is here, it can't be bad. :lol:


Wow, remind me not to make a typo on one of your pages , I wouldn't want to mess them up. :roll:

This forum has outlived other forums, spammy or not. It is for people of all ages, abilities and nationalities so perhaps it won't be as perfect as you would like it to be. If you want to put people off posting on your threads you're going the right way about it. Some of your comments are not cool, in fact I find them quite offensive, not for myself as I'm confident enough to be able to deal with your remarks but for some of the others who may not come up to your "standards" . Postloop was supposed to be a high quality posting place and look what has happened to that. Give me a forum like this one any day.

It's not that I don't care, of course I do, but I also have respect for the feelings of other people and although there have been a few spammy posts here and there I don't feel it's a general thing. Rant over :)


@sprite1950, it was never my intent to offend, but I admit I am controversial and I am direct and frank. You misinterpret what I mean by spammy... I make typos, we all do, but recently (and not only on this forum) some posters (paid and unpaid) I have noticed do make more spam like posts. One recent one posted along the lines of 'look at how many coins you have, you can cash out...' when it had nothing to do with the thread. That's what I mean!

I also have, let's say some other knowledge of certain posters which is why I am more direct with them as they are on other sites, FB groups, and forums, and they repeat the same thing (as in asking for advice) and never listen, so that's why I am more direct as I have said the same thing to them on other forums and sites, which you may see as offensive. I know I was very direct with one member, but they are in a secret FB group that I am in and can read the answers to the questions they asked if they could be bothered to. If you don't look for answers that are there, then of course you won't know them, but making a post about it for the sake of it is a bit sad.

As I am still new here, I am being honest in that the main reason I did not join over a year ago is that I had a brief glance at the posts, that happened to be that day full of what I deem spam 'me too' posts, and that put me off joining. I'm sure I'm not the only one, so it depends on the time of day you are on the site, and that's a deal breaker as to whether you register or close that window and don't return.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 01 Oct 2016, 08:19

Perhaps I was a little harsh but this forum is very dear to my heart and I hate to see people criticise it. I know what you mean by spam .. I was just reacting to the comment, but I haven't seen many 'me too' posts or posts that don't really add to the discussion .. I do however see people struggling with language which might be interpreted as spam.

I joined this forum just over a year ago, the time you mention it appeared spammy, but I absolutely loved it and if there were any less than perfect posts I guess I just didn't notice them or even mind. Lots of people were banned at around that time (July 2015) so I guess Fergal and co. were taking care of it.

My concern is that when valuable members of the forum see your posts it will scare them off as they will think their contributions aren't good enough. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Lexi » 01 Oct 2016, 08:28

sprite1950 wrote:Perhaps I was a little harsh but this forum is very dear to my heart and I hate to see people criticise it. I know what you mean by spam .. I was just reacting to the comment, but I haven't seen many 'me too' posts or posts that don't really add to the discussion .. I do however see people struggling with language which might be interpreted as spam.

I joined this forum just over a year ago, the time you mention it appeared spammy, but I absolutely loved it and if there were any less than perfect posts I guess I just didn't notice them or even mind. Lots of people were banned at around that time (July 2015) so I guess Fergal and co. were taking care of it.

My concern is that when valuable members of the forum see your posts it will scare them off as they will think their contributions aren't good enough. Maybe I'm wrong.


I can see it from your point of view, and I am careful with my words (believe me) and I never wish to deter people from commenting on my posts, or asking more questions.

I guess in general people post, and most won't be scared, but will be deterred from asking something that was answered in the post above. Maybe they didn't understand it as their English isn't so good, but we can't assume that.

On blogjob, where there are some members here too, that was one of the issues as people got credit for forum posts, comments, and now that site has suspended the rewards system due to those three-five worded sentences being in the majority. Unless they are nipped in the bud, then people won't register or post, and I, for one would just abandon the site. For what it's worth, I enjoy your posts and find them refreshing, and I don't say that very often.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 01 Oct 2016, 08:55

I accept what you say and believe you are trying to improve the quality of the forum .. but at the end of the day Fergal is the owner and although we can put suggestions forward, his decisions should be final. (Bet he's watching this discussion closely!)

Thank you for the comments on my posts but I wonder if you are humouring me a little! :lol:
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby IcyFirefly » 01 Oct 2016, 10:27

sprite1950 wrote:Perhaps I was a little harsh but this forum is very dear to my heart and I hate to see people criticise it. I know what you mean by spam .. I was just reacting to the comment, but I haven't seen many 'me too' posts or posts that don't really add to the discussion .. I do however see people struggling with language which might be interpreted as spam.

I joined this forum just over a year ago, the time you mention it appeared spammy, but I absolutely loved it and if there were any less than perfect posts I guess I just didn't notice them or even mind. Lots of people were banned at around that time (July 2015) so I guess Fergal and co. were taking care of it.

My concern is that when valuable members of the forum see your posts it will scare them off as they will think their contributions aren't good enough. Maybe I'm wrong.


I believe no one is criticizing this forum, and it is not language barrier as you've stated. I certainly didn't mention about typos, grammatical, or sentence structure at all, but emphasize on how people just posting for points, or repeating what has been said many times before that, or telling a proverb that has nothing to do with the subject, and then someone tapped onto it to make a comment.

Yes, we can leave the forum to @Fergal to take care of whatever needed to be done, but as a user/member of a forum, I think we all have a bit of responsibility for it as well, especially if we want to have longevity to a forum that is dear to us.

I don't think language barrier excuse can be used here since at least 90% of members in this FC are on other writing sites too.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 01 Oct 2016, 10:34

Ok, I take your point but I would be interested to see what other people think too so I'm hoping that a few others will chip in and give their opinion. I say this as I actually haven't seen much of what you are complaining about. Maybe I'm just more laid back than some and don't notice.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Lexi » 01 Oct 2016, 11:03

sprite1950 wrote:I accept what you say and believe you are trying to improve the quality of the forum .. but at the end of the day Fergal is the owner and although we can put suggestions forward, his decisions should be final. (Bet he's watching this discussion closely!)

Thank you for the comments on my posts but I wonder if you are humouring me a little! :lol:


Actually, I'm not trying to improve or change the forum. People are free to join a forum, and they stay only because of either; 1) they get paid, and/or 2) they like the community.

I have left paid and umpaid forums when I found the members weren't interesting or rude, or if the admins were rude or didn't have any control of the site. One was an intelligence forum where a moderator was allowed to insult other posters and many of us left. The owner was informed and did nothing until he was left with no posters, got rid of the moderator and begged us to come back.

One chooses the company they keep, and while there maybe coins that can be earned it was never an incentive because I could have joined over a year ago. I chose not to as I didn't see any topics worthy of reading, or members that I would like to interact with. All forums depend on a good community spirit, and hope that will grow, for once that goes then it's much harder to rescue.

Being laid back is a good thing, but as I said some of these posters that do create 'spam' like posts are on other sites and groups I am on, (and Icy) so we see them repeating the same posts on the same threads, day after day on multiple sites Maybe I'll just block them all instead.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby sprite1950 » 01 Oct 2016, 11:20

Lexi, there we must agree to disagree because I loved some of the people who were here a year or more ago, Angie10 included, and contributed to many topics that I found interesting and enjoyable.

I do think that a forum is only as good as it's owner (and team of course) which is why this one will survive the test of time. People come and go all the time which means it is constantly changing. I think that is why I like forum posting so much. We may not always like the changes but at least it never gets boring ;)
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby ceci » 01 Oct 2016, 13:52

I understand your concern. We should care about the quality of the post. But, I think we should maintain the joy of posting too while be informative.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby IcyFirefly » 02 Oct 2016, 14:29

ceci wrote:I understand your concern. We should care about the quality of the post. But, I think we should maintain the joy of posting too while be informative.


Oh, absolutely agree with the joy of posting! I don't mind the one-liner post if it is funny or provide a short direct link pertaining the topic of the thread. If the comment is off topic, it shows that the poster hasn't read what is going on, and just quickly jog down to make 1 point, that is irritating to me.

Perhaps, I paid too much attention and should be laid back more, but I am trained to take pride in whatever I do, so I need to re-wire my thoughts!!! I am old, and I am set in my way and I get cranky when I see messy or lazy posters!

With that said, there should be some joy in working indeed!
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Angie10 » 03 Oct 2016, 15:44

Of course, we should all care about what we post, so I do care. I guess part of the beauty of ForumCoin is that there are no rigid rules here where comments have to be a certain length and people are crucified for not writing perfect English. This is a good thing, but you do find that some people will exploit this and post one liner after one liner.

Like IcyFirefly, I also believe one-liners have a time and place, but where you see certain people doing it over and over again, it does raise question marks. I have to say, as far as I've observed, it can be anyone, irrespective of their language skills.

Having said that though, that for me is not nowhere near as irritating as people who clearly haven't bothered to read the comments and will repeatedly ask questions the answers to which are somewhere in the thread.
I even remember once gently saying to someone they should take the time out to scour through the many threads here that could address their question, and was gobsmacked to hear someone say that would be too tedious a task!

I'm sorry, but I refuse to answer the same question over and over again, when it's been covered several times over. You want something, the least you can do is take the responsibility of seeking out the answers, especially if it's already been discussed to within an inch of its life LOL :)

Or those who simply go off on a tangent because that is a clear sign they've not read and understood the comments.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby IcyFirefly » 04 Oct 2016, 10:31

@angie10 I agree with you totally about "..clearly haven't bothered to read the comments and will repeatedly ask questions the answers to which are somewhere in the thread."

I believe I spent more time reading a thread than the actual writing! If I click on a topic to respond to, I read it from top to bottom, page 1 to page 2, etc..to see what I've missed or to learn from others. This way, I can exam myself to see if I have anything to offer! If I have something to say, great, and if not, I move on to another topic :)
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby Parminder » 04 Oct 2016, 12:39

Hi
I am a newbie. Just answered to four posts and wrote a post long enough and good enough and lucid enough. I am taking utmost care to write well as well as serve well. My posts will help everyone to escalate towards personal development and change the outer world by changing his own world.
So looking forward to share some quality posts.
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Re: Do You Care Enough?

Postby IcyFirefly » 04 Oct 2016, 13:05

Parminder wrote:Hi
I am a newbie. Just answered to four posts and wrote a post long enough and good enough and lucid enough. I am taking utmost care to write well as well as serve well. My posts will help everyone to escalate towards personal development and change the outer world by changing his own world.
So looking forward to share some quality posts.


Welcome to the forum, and you sound very promising! It is a great attitude you have there, which in turn will keep FC clean, fun, educational as well as informative.

Glad you are here!
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