[oldfriend]

FC'ers,

Several times when I am posting I see that the person has been banned.

It makes me un-easy to reply to their post because I don't want to get into trouble or be banned myself.

If a person is "Banned" why are they allowed to continue to Post or why do their Posts stay on the board?

Just curious.

Oldfriend

[RapidBlue]

FC'ers,

Several times when I am posting I see that the person has been banned.

It makes me un-easy to reply to their post because I don't want to get into trouble or be banned myself.

If a person is "Banned" why are they allowed to continue to Post or why do their Posts stay on the board?

Just curious.

Oldfriend

I don't think they are allowed and those are all the old posts, but they are kept open and after somebody replies the posts goes up in the New Posts feed.
I don't have a clue why people get banned but it has to be something more than posting, because I saw all kind of the things and members didn't end up banned.

[nela13]

Probably what RapidBlue said is the correct answer, because I think that after being banned, they just can't login the site I suppose, so the posts that of banned people are old ones.

[RapidBlue]

Probably what RapidBlue said is the correct answer, because I think that after being banned, they just can't login the site I suppose, so the posts that of banned people are old ones.

I am not sure of one thing. If a person is banned for a bad post, or low quality ( I doubt it is that), why their posts are still in here?
Wouldn't be better to delete them?
Because we have posts being revived after a long time it's like they're coming back from a grave.

[CyberFreak]

Deleting posts does have issues as it can break conversations or remove the opening post in topics meaning that the topic would not make any sense to other users. Keeping the posts will avoid this confusion. This applies to users who are typically banned for cheating or abusive behaviour and that sort of thing.

Users who are banned for low quality posts or spamming usually find their posts deleted or some posts deleted but they are deleted manually or we remove whole topics trying to make sure that if we delete a post, it won't ruin the flow of conversations or have users seemingly reply to themselves.

[RapidBlue]

Deleting posts does have issues as it can break conversations or remove the opening post in topics meaning that the topic would not make any sense to other users. Keeping the posts will avoid this confusion. This applies to users who are typically banned for cheating or abusive behaviour and that sort of thing.

Users who are banned for low quality posts or spamming usually find their posts deleted or some posts deleted but they are deleted manually or we remove whole topics trying to make sure that if we delete a post, it won't ruin the flow of conversations or have users seemingly reply to themselves.

So, in other words, the users who are banned don't hold the right on their content? How charming. And tehir posts still generate revenue?
You didn't specify what kind of an abusive behavior is in question, because some of my own posts also could be considered abusive and harmful, regardless what I said - so what exact kind of abusive behavior would result in a ban?

[CyberFreak]

We have paid for those posts as users are credited with forumcoin when they post their content. Why should we pay users and then( especially if a user withdraws their earnings), delete all their posts because they broke our rules?

Alot of forums will not just delete all users posts based on users requests. It is down to the forum owner and the reasons.

An example of abusive behaviour is stuff like this


We should delete all his 784 posts even though he withdrawn all but 59 FC just because he decided to act like an idiot? That is not charming for us or for our users that end up confused but all the missing posts.

The user breaches our rules so they should be punished... not us. Why should we lose out because a user can not follow our rules. We are incredibly lenient compared to Postloop and other sites like that.

[RapidBlue]

We have paid for those posts as users are credited with forumcoin when they post their content. Why should we pay users and then( especially if a user withdraws their earnings), delete all their posts because they broke our rules?

Alot of forums will not just delete all users posts based on users requests. It is down to the forum owner and the reasons.

An example of abusive behaviour is stuff like this

abuse2.png

Yeah... that is something I will definitely not post... unless it is a competition. LOL
But a payment threshold is $5 isn't it?
User get banned when he has for example $2? Then what?

MyLot kept my content for months earning revenue by it, before I poked them and they completely shut it, as tehir Terms clearly state that content is mine.
As you said the problem remains that it will broke a discussion, but at the end who has a copyright on content - a page, or a member?

Edit: Why he acted this way? Was this only one incident or he had like a whole collection?

Edit": Okay, I have previewed his account right now, it seems that something happened at 15 Aug 2015 and he had a line of those posts? How come? He never showed any hostile behavior before? That is weird...

[Fergal]

When a member posts something on ForumCoin, they do it in the knowledge that their post will be publicised and become part of our community discussions. We are happy to delete content that includes very personal or identifying information. However, we don't necessarily delete content that has added to the discussion, just because the member who made that post requests that it be deleted.

Deleting individual posts would interrupt the discussion flow of the threads they were posted in. Hence, most forums will not delete posts in that way and we don't either.

[CyberFreak]

We have paid for those posts as users are credited with forumcoin when they post their content. Why should we pay users and then( especially if a user withdraws their earnings), delete all their posts because they broke our rules?

Alot of forums will not just delete all users posts based on users requests. It is down to the forum owner and the reasons.

An example of abusive behaviour is stuff like this

abuse2.png

Yeah... that is something I will definitely not post... unless it is a competition. LOL
But a payment threshold is $5 isn't it?
User get banned when he has for example $2? Then what?

MyLot kept my content for months earning revenue by it, before I poked them and they completely shut it, as tehir Terms clearly state that content is mine.
As you said the problem remains that it will broke a discussion, but at the end who has a copyright on content - a page, or a member?

Edit: Why he acted this way? Was this only one incident or he had like a whole collection?

Edit": Okay, I have previewed his account right now, it seems that something happened at 15 Aug 2015 and he had a line of those posts? How come? He never showed any hostile behavior before? That is weird...

The reason he reacted like that was because he was warned the previous day about copying and pasting content from other sites and he decided to react like that. It was numerous posts and PM's aswell.

[RapidBlue]

When a member posts something on ForumCoin, they do it in the knowledge that their post will be publicised and become part of our community discussions. We are happy to delete content that includes very personal or identifying information. However, we don't necessarily delete content that has added to the discussion, just because the member who made that post requests that it be deleted.

Deleting individual posts would interrupt the discussion flow of the threads they were posted in. Hence, most forums will not delete posts in that way and we don't either.

Well, my personal identifying signature is that my posts cause ataxia... Or diarrhea. You can't mix me up with anyone else.
My question was mainly about the copyright, because it is not clearly specified - you said that a member agrees to have a post published as a part of a community, the problem begins when he/she is not a member anymore.

I think you should make a clear cut about it in your Terms that members can't claim right over the content once it is published and that they have to agree on that.

Otherwise if you don't have that covered, the copyright applies.

With that said, how much time we have to edit ( alter) an each post after we publish it?

Because other forums have that limited, so members can't actually delete content after they post it.
I mean if you employ the rule that you keeping the copyright over the content, I think you should mention it in rules and additionally clear up the conclusion by locking in the posts.

--- 01 May 2016, 17:38 ---

The reason he reacted like that was because he was warned the previous day about copying and pasting content from other sites and he decided to react like that. It was numerous posts and PM's aswell.

So, a member with 700+ posts starts to copy/paste posts out of a blue? And nobody thinks it is just a bit weird?
Did the personal messages includes referral or affiliate programs or he was just as much boring like in that snap up there - because to be completely honest I can do much better with no obscene wording at all, but an every sentence would require a help of an exorcist and a bottle of whiskey to be bearable.
I don't get it...

[oldfriend]

When a member posts something on ForumCoin, they do it in the knowledge that their post will be publicised and become part of our community discussions. We are happy to delete content that includes very personal or identifying information. However, we don't necessarily delete content that has added to the discussion, just because the member who made that post requests that it be deleted.

Deleting individual posts would interrupt the discussion flow of the threads they were posted in. Hence, most forums will not delete posts in that way and we don't either.

Well, my personal identifying signature is that my posts cause ataxia... Or diarrhea. You can't mix me up with anyone else.
My question was mainly about the copyright, because it is not clearly specified - you said that a member agrees to have a post published as a part of a community, the problem begins when he/she is not a member anymore.

I think you should make a clear cut about it in your Terms that members can't claim right over the content once it is published and that they have to agree on that.

Otherwise if you don't have that covered, the copyright applies.

With that said, how much time we have to edit ( alter) an each post after we publish it?

Because other forums have that limited, so members can't actually delete content after they post it.
I mean if you employ the rule that you keeping the copyright over the content, I think you should mention it in rules and additionally clear up the conclusion by locking in the posts.

I always was under the impression that when you agreed to use a public forum, ie; Forumcoin, there would be no copy-write privileges.

After all, it is a public forum that you receive compensation for posting and not necessarily your writing. In other words you are being paid to post but not paid to write.

Despite all of that, I was just curious as to why I was able to see "Banned" people. After reading what FC said, I can now see where a particular individual was banned and his posts are no longer being repeated or re-discussed.

One thing I have always held to: If you don't want to be responsible for what you say or write, then keep it to yourself. It is so easy to have your words twisted and your meanings turned against that you better say it correctly or not at all.

As a published author, paid speaker, for over 40 years, it has become harder to say what I want to say because of Political correctness and special groups who are looking for a fight or law suit. (sigh)

Thanks for the discussion.

Oldfriend

[CyberFreak]

The reason he reacted like that was because he was warned the previous day about copying and pasting content from other sites and he decided to react like that. It was numerous posts and PM's aswell.

So, a member with 700+ posts starts to copy/paste posts out of a blue? And nobody thinks it is just a bit weird?
Did the personal messages includes referral or affiliate programs or he was just as much boring like in that snap up there - because to be completely honest I can do much better with no obscene wording at all, but an every sentence would require a help of an exorcist and a bottle of whiskey to be bearable.
I don't get it...

I can't explain it... only the user can but they were the circumstances that led to that ban. The PM's I referred to was abusive ones to Fergal and others along the same lines as that post I screenshoted above.

His reasons for copying posts might have been that he has done it for a while before we noticed, saw other users doing it and getting away with it and thought he could aswell or just thought that it might be an easier way to earn so would give it a go and got caught out. Unfortunately I don't have all the answers as to why users do what they do. I just reported facts and we can all speculate why but that is all it is.

With that said, how much time we have to edit ( alter) an each post after we publish it?

Users should be able to alter them indefinitely. You can try to edit one of your first posts here and see if that works. As far as I am aware, it should be possible.

[RapidBlue]

Any web page with the financial compensation towards the members has to have some things covered up. They are not.

Yes, the words can be twisted if there is an editing feature that rolls indefinitely. This is not a good thing. That is one improvement that I want to suggest. Secure and lock posts after a short period of time.

I also have to suggest one improvement to Forumcoin and that one is I think something that you should take for granted - add second layer of protection with mobile phones.
People get scammed and hacked all over the internet, and sometimes my only protection is my own phone.