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I just realized we don't have a martial arts action star anymore.

Postby Netherrealmer » 03 Jan 2026, 03:56

From the 1970s through the 1990s, we had major martial arts stars such as Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Cynthia Rothrock, and Chuck Norris. Many of these actors came directly from the martial arts world. They competed in tournaments, participated in high-level competitions, and had extensive formal training. They held black belts, had genuine mastery of their disciplines, and were discovered by film producers who turned them into action stars. When they were launched, they were already credible martial artists, and that authenticity was a major part of their appeal.

Today, we no longer really have martial arts stars in the same sense. Most skilled martial artists end up as character actors or stunt performers. Modern producers tend to cast already popular actors or actresses, give them martial arts training, surround them with stunt doubles and visual effects, and then build an action film around them. One reason for this shift is the perception that martial artists lack acting ability, while actors may lack martial arts skills—but those skills can be trained and enhanced with choreography, CGI, and editing.

As a result, producers often think, “Why cast an unknown black-belt martial artist when I can train someone like a Hemsworth brother, Keanu Reeves, or Angelina Jolie and achieve a commercially successful film?” This mentality has largely sidelined authentic martial artists as leading stars, which is unfortunate.
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Postby germainebull » 03 Jan 2026, 08:32

Netherrealmer wrote:From the 1970s through the 1990s, we had major martial arts stars such as Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Cynthia Rothrock, and Chuck Norris. Many of these actors came directly from the martial arts world. They competed in tournaments, participated in high-level competitions, and had extensive formal training. They held black belts, had genuine mastery of their disciplines, and were discovered by film producers who turned them into action stars. When they were launched, they were already credible martial artists, and that authenticity was a major part of their appeal.

Today, we no longer really have martial arts stars in the same sense. Most skilled martial artists end up as character actors or stunt performers. Modern producers tend to cast already popular actors or actresses, give them martial arts training, surround them with stunt doubles and visual effects, and then build an action film around them.


In the past, karate stars were true professionals who entered the film with their natural skills. These days, the market has changed as producers use technology and acting more than the reality of the blows.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 03 Jan 2026, 10:58

They use karate stars, they use kung fu stars, and kickboxers and taekwondo stars because they are much more faster. But they're not used anymore because action stars these days are not even martial artists. They're just actors who are already popular and given martial arts training, not people who have martial arts training first.
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Postby germainebull » 10 Jan 2026, 08:14

You're referring to a real shift in the evolution of action films. From the 1970s to the 1990s, martial artists like Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Cynthia Rothrock, and Jean-Claude Van Damme were cast precisely for their authentic fighting experience. Their speed, technique, and creativity shaped the genre, giving audiences a sense of raw physical power.

Today, studios tend to prioritize actors with established fame or charisma, then train them in martial arts choreography for specific roles.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 24 Jan 2026, 15:14

Even Hong Kong, you know, the action movie capital, doesn't use martial artists anymore. They will just get a pop idol or an actor and teach them martial arts, teach them fight choreography, and hire some stunt work, than get an unknown martial artist and teach them how to act. So there will be no more Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee or Cynthia Rothrock for the next generation. They will just get an actor and teach them fight choreography.
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Postby Neurosurgeon » 18 Mar 2026, 20:32

The comment reflects nostalgia for iconic martial arts film stars whose retirements leave gaps in action cinema. Fans often discuss legacy impacts on movie genres and upcoming replacements in global entertainment industries today
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Postby Netherrealmer » 18 Mar 2026, 20:42

The last country that makes martial arts movies with actual martial artists right now is Indonesia. You guys should try to watch Indonesian action films. They're life-changing. Will remind you of old-school Hong Kong.
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Postby Jem Smith » 06 Apr 2026, 00:34

Netherrealmer wrote:The last country that makes martial arts movies with actual martial artists right now is Indonesia. You guys should try to watch Indonesian action films. They're life-changing. Will remind you of old-school Hong Kong.


Thanks for the tip. I will have a look for some.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 25 Apr 2026, 22:52

Bruce Lee
Jackie Chan
Jet Li
Donnie Yen
And ... that's where it stopped for me. :lol:
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Postby eldavis » 27 Apr 2026, 03:58

cmoneyspinner wrote:Bruce Lee
Jackie Chan
Jet Li
Donnie Yen
And ... that's where it stopped for me. :lol:



These guys where legends in their prime, i enjoyed their movies. I didn't watch much of bruce lee dramas through.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 27 Apr 2026, 11:57

Yeah donnie yen seems like the last martial arts star. He is kind of active in hollywood now though.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 28 Apr 2026, 18:14

Netherrealmer wrote:Yeah donnie yen seems like the last martial arts star. He is kind of active in hollywood now though.


What I like most about Donnie Yen is ... his mom taught him martial arts. What a cool mom! :lol:
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Postby ptrikha21 » 03 May 2026, 18:06

We can just interpret is a sign of changing times.
Changing dynamics.
More sense of "Cost" Optimization by producers at the expense of artistic excellence?
My views !
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Postby Paradise » 25 May 2026, 21:50

ptrikha21 wrote:We can just interpret is a sign of changing times.
Changing dynamics.
More sense of "Cost" Optimization by producers at the expense of artistic excellence?
My views !


That’s true, big martial arts leads aren’t common now. Studios often favor cheaper effects and broader appeal over expensive stunt work. It’s less about losing skill and more about budgets and audience shifts. Some still value the craft, but it’s no longer the main draw.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 26 May 2026, 20:04

I checked a listing of the rising martial arts stars, and it seems they are not rising in America. In fact, the only name on the list that I recognized was Tony Jaa. He's pretty cool, actually.
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Postby Netherrealmer » 21 Jun 2026, 17:51

I know that people consider Michelle Yeoh as a martial arts star, but she was not a martial artist when she started. She was a ballerina and a beauty queen. But her background in ballet made her learn fight choreography very easy, so we can say that she's one of the people to blame why action movie producers realized that you don't have to be a real martial artist to do well in a martial art movie.

A lot of dancer-actors transition well doing action movies. For example, Hugh Jackman was a Broadway actor, dancer, and singer, and his background in dance helped him do action movies well.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 21 Jun 2026, 19:15

I'm starting to wonder if the martial arts celebs are a vanishing breed.

Bruce Lee was the gold standard.

Plenty came after him ... Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen, etc. But it's like nobody's walking in their shoes. And yet people crowded around to see a lousy UFC fight. :crazy:

I would much rather watch a martial arts competition. Of course, with each one of these fights, you're always comparing the fighters to Bruce Lee. You can't help yourself. When I watch kung fu movies or a martial arts scene in a movie or TV show, I think of Bruce Lee all the time. :lol:
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Postby eldavis » 21 Jun 2026, 19:20

The way i see it, it will take a long while before we get a new one in Hollywood.
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Postby cmoneyspinner » 26 Jun 2026, 18:29

eldavis wrote:The way i see it, it will take a long while before we get a new one in Hollywood.


Is it because there are no more disciplined martial artists following in Bruce Lee's footsteps?
Or is it because they can make AI videos?
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Postby eldavis » Yesterday, 20:02

cmoneyspinner wrote:
eldavis wrote:The way i see it, it will take a long while before we get a new one in Hollywood.


Is it because there are no more disciplined martial artists following in Bruce Lee's footsteps?
Or is it because they can make AI videos?



To be honest i don't even know the real reason, but i just feel so. This generation is more focused on other things lol.
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