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Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby CyberFreak » 03 Jul 2017, 13:35

Hello peeps!

I have been working on some of my other online projects away from ForumCoin recently and need some user feedback aswell as some testing to see if what i have been working on is achieving my aims.

Reward: 30 ForumCoin
Time: 5-10 minutes max
Offer only open for a short while as I want to finish this in the next few days and hopefully have it live on my faucets so please be quick or you will miss out!

Please read all the below. I know I write alot but I want you to know who it is targeted at and what I am attempting to achieve.

Background
I run multiple faucets (where users can earn small amounts of Bitcoin, Ethereum etc for just clicking a few times) and these types of sites attract alot of bots that automatically claim. This can be quite costly and can cost many $ is a few hours eating away all my profits and even causing me a loss :x . Usually faucets all have similar protection against bots such as either solvemedia or recaptcha and some have what are called anti bot links. The issue is that bots seem to be able get around these with the help of CAPTCHA solving sites that pay real humans fractions of a cent to solve captchas or use bots that can solve them automatically.

I also receive multiple emails a week from users claimin that ReCAPTCHA is too hard/takes to many attempts to complete. My faucets also attract alot of users where English is not their first language.

Solution
I decided to try and cure both issues by creating my own way to separate bots from humans and make things easier for humans. My aim is kinda to go down the route of "security through obscurity" where my methods will hopefully stump existing bots and because my method is unique to my faucets (and not the thousands of others), they will hopefully decide to not bother adapting their bots to get around my method just to targets my sites.

My method is simple question and answers. I have made them or worded them in such a way it may make it harder for bots to work out what is being asked but still be easy for humans. I have also set it up so if a user (bot) gets a question incorrect, they are shown the same question. Likewise if a user (bot) refreshes the page, they get the same question. This way if the bot gets a question they can't get around, they will have to keep trying it and after a few attempts, they get blocked. It does mean that a bad question or a complicated question may cause someone to reach a dead end which I want to avoid hence this topic.

What I want you to do
I have set up a quick demo site using the Q&A CAPTCHA i have been working on for the past couple of days. All I want you to do is the following:

1) Access the site - https://www.linkcove.com/quaptcha.php (not pleasant to look at but set up just for you peeps to use)
2) fill in your forumcoin username for tracking purposes. You will only need to do this once and it should autofill your user name on future attempts.
3) Solve the questions. There are currently 7 types of questions. Some simple maths, some more advanced, some word related and 1 so far which is colour related.
4) Submit which will say if your answer was correct or not. It will also say how many submissions you have made. After a few seconds, it will take you back to the start.
5) Complete atleast 15 questions.

Then let me know either in this topic or via PM if you had any issues and how your found the questions. The main points I want to know are

1) Did you find any incorrect questions which couldn't be answered and reached a dead end?
2) Did you find the questions confusing? Did you have to really read the questions to understand what it was asking?
3) Did you find the questions complicated to answer? Did you have to redo many questions? did you have to think alot to work out an answer?
4) Did you prefer these questions compared to other CAPTCHA services like ReCAPTCHA?

If you can do all this, I will reward you 30 ForumCoin :) If users find it OK in terms of user experience, I will then test it's effectiveness against bots which in my limited testing seems promising although that was with a slightly different method with additional protection aswell which users had to solve.
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Re: Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby JonathanS » 03 Jul 2017, 14:08

To begin none of the math questions were confusing nor complicated.

I ran a total of 15 test, however, the numbering of the first few attempts was off. It went from 1 to 3, 8, 10, then carried on in proper numerical order till 15. Skipping 16 and going to 17. From 17 to 22 it was perfectly fine.

I entered all of the answers correct (which they were). None of the links loaded me to a dead end. They simply looped back to the original page, with the username still filled in.

Grammatically speaking, I also didn't notice any errors of wording on each attempt.

Personally, I'm better at solving simple addition and subtraction math questions like these compared to CAPTCHA and reCAPTCHA. Most of the time with those I have to refresh the set of captchas given.


I completed your task to specifications.

Regards,

Jonathan.
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Re: Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby CyberFreak » 03 Jul 2017, 14:16

Thanks... I was watching your questions/total and noticed it was counting your submissions oddly. Not sure what the issue is but will look into that :)

Glad you found them good to do and better than reCAPTCHA. That is what I hoping for. Just have to hope that it does provide good enough protection against bots.

Sending your Forumcoin now :)

BTW, i noticed that out of all your attempts, you weren't served with a colour based question which is one that I think is probably most likely to be confusing. Can you take a quick look at the image below from a test site and let me know if you found it confusing?

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Re: Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby JonathanS » 03 Jul 2017, 14:26

CyberFreak wrote:Thanks... I was watching your questions/total and noticed it was counting your submissions oddly. Not sure what the issue is but will look into that :)

Glad you found them good to do and better than reCAPTCHA. That is what I hoping for. Just have to hope that it does provide good enough protection against bots.

Sending your Forumcoin now :)

BTW, i noticed that out of all your attempts, you weren't served with a colour based question which is one that I think is probably most likely to be confusing. Can you take a quick look at the image below from a test site and let me know if you found it confusing?

colour.png


Thanks for the FC :thumbup:

Also, yes, you're right. I wasn't presented with any color imputing questions.

Regarding the picture itself, I find even the most simple minded person could solve.

For me, CAPTCHA works great in the fight against spam of different bots. However, not all are the easiest to solve (especially when we get into case sensitive letters). Yours are simple to complete and generally don't take long to figure out. So long as they pass the bot test against spam, I would love to see these implemented into most verification processes of different websites as such.
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Re: Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby shamzblueworld » 03 Jul 2017, 14:36

Did 20 questions, everything worked fine at my end. Here is to the questions you posed,
1) No
2) No they were easy for humans at least. And yes of course, I got them all right.
3) Nope, pretty simple and easy math, and other letter questions were also straight forward.
4) I really liked this, as a webmaster I prefer this over reCAPTCHA.

I hope the result is good when you test it against bits, because I think this is great.
PS. I'm gonna take inspiration from your questions and use them on my forum :)
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Re: Paying for some testing/feedback

Postby CyberFreak » 03 Jul 2017, 14:46

Thanks for the feedback :) Glad that the feedback so far has been positive. Hopefully with a few more question styles based around the current ones, it will be both easy to use and effective. Hopefully it will work nicely and I will never have to use or integrate ReCAPTCHA into my sites ever again :lol:

Edit: Going to lock this for the time being. Within a couple of minutes of putting it live on one of my sites for a test, ~75% of requests we failures because users were not reading the questions properly/struggling to understand them and I got an angry email from a Russian (in Russian) about it to top it off :( I think I need something a bit more internationally friendly.
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