[Netherrealmer]

A lot of people died in Texas because of flush floods. Texas is a republican state and a lot of republicans dont believe in Climate change and they think America should drill more oil. I just saw a republican congresswoman who said months ago saying climate change is not real now mourning for the deaths of children because of climate change. Most European countries are transitioning to oil free. Japan just invented a Water fueled car but yeah Magas said drill baby drill.

[Fergal]

This is a very sad story and my sympathy goes to everyone involved, especially those who lost children to this tragic event. It is frightening to think that water levels rose so quickly and that there was no warning that this was going to happen.

[Netherrealmer]

Republicans are blaming DEI....

[arunima]

The death toll had touched close to 200 in the last news that I read. It was upsetting to see how cruel Nature can turn in no time. Sad that people are still not taking it seriously.

[mrki444]

It is not just American. Some places in Spain don't have infrastructure for big storms and floods. In history those were few times in decade and now is few times in year. They still don't accept reason and don't want invest in better infrastructure like sewage system.

[Treborika]

This is a very tragic incident. I think that the relevant authorities may be held accountable and such incidents being avoided in future

[Jem Smith]

It is not just American. Some places in Spain don't have infrastructure for big storms and floods. In history those were few times in decade and now is few times in year. They still don't accept reason and don't want invest in better infrastructure like sewage system.

True. We've had major flooding here in Australia several times in the past decade, and lots of people were angry that we were so poorly prepared for it, especially the second time. Meanwhile there are still politicians here who insist that all the natural disasters we have had recently (more than ever before) have nothing to do with climate change.

[Netherrealmer]

meanwhile Iran government blames Natural disasters to women who doesn't dress modestly

[OldGuy]

It is not and never has been that American Republicans do not believe in climate change. That is not the question. There is more than enough scientific evidence that wild fluctuations in climate change is part of the history of planet earth, dating back to long before humans had any possible influence.

The issue began quite specifically because Al Gore was at the beginnings of announcing "Global Warming" as a major issue that needed governments to control human activity. If you did not notice, even that term had to be changed to cover any change because it was quickly proven that it was simply not true as a continued global WARMING. People in general are really stupid and will follow any lie without even questioning it. It was easy to convince the masses that there was something to his lie.

His statements were obviously a beginning drive to affect expensive government control over all human life and offensive quite specifically because he proved beyond question that he personally is not capable of telling the truth about anything during his political campaign running for US President. After all, he also claimed that he personally invented the Internet and many other minor details like that during his campaign. He is not trustworthy and anything he said was a lie. It carries forward to anything he says even still.

Climate change is very real and is very much part of Earth's history. The lie is that humans are the cause. It is a natural part of the weather cycle that comes with the planet. Even added data that is documenting human activity during the promotion of this ongoing lie reflects very tiny percentages of anything related to climate change. All this bull that blames climate change on human activity is the objection. The animal kingdom relies on oxygen in the air we breathe. Plant life breathes in carbon dioxide. Animals exhale carbon dioxide and plants exhale oxygen. It is a required exchange that supports life on both sides of the equation. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere supports plant life. It is not a toxic substance. When there is an abundance of either, life is supported in the air we breathe.

The only reason to blame it on humans is to force control over all human activity and to be forced to obey governmental control and pay fees and added taxes just to live. The number one reason to even question the fairy tale is because Al Gore introduced the concept that humans need to be controlled to control the weather. That is why republicans in general object to the lie.

[Fergal]

That is a very interesting perspective OldGuy, I hadn't thought of it that way before. What is your opinion on scientists who warn against climate change?

[Netherrealmer]

Those scientists moved to Europe now because Trump defunded many research include cancer cure. Trump doesn't believe it because he lives in New York a cold State, Not knowing people in tropics goes through

[OldGuy]

As I stated earlier, it is not that there is any disagreement about climate change. That element is recorded as historical fact for all of earth's history. Any disagreement is in blaming changes on human activity as the leading cause. Yes, there is more air pollution in concentrated areas of major cities that is caused by discharges in the atmosphere, but when you compare factual data with the sources of major changes in climate change, the individual human element even with millions of cars is a tiny percentage when compared to agricultural and commercial discharges.

If the wolves were not in control, they would go after their own agricultural and commercial discharges instead of the chicken coop if they were to make any real dent in the issue. Going after vehicle exhaust is just to mislead the masses into thinking they were doing something real to reduce pollution.

Vehicle exhaust is a tiny element in comparison. A forced switch to electric cars is little more than a "smoke screen" to protect the interests of the major polluters that cause much greater problems as any human element leading to any climate change. That is all documented in scientific research. It is simply not reported because it does not support the government mandates that are all money driven in a power grab to force compliance with their agenda. At any rate, climate change is normal and will continue to change with or without human activity as any major cause and effect no matter how much money they throw at it.

[Netherrealmer]

You're totally right—Earth's climate has always had its dramatic flair. Ice ages, warm spells, dinosaurs in tropical Canada—classic Earth. But the twist now is the speed and scale. What used to take thousands or millions of years is now happening in the time it takes to pay off a student loan. Most climate scientists agree: it’s not just nature doing its thing anymore—humans have entered the chat, mostly via greenhouse gases since the Industrial Revolution, aka “when we started burning stuff for fun and profit.”

Also, the term “climate change” didn’t replace “global warming” because global warming was wrong—it just didn’t cover all the fun extras. “Global warming” is still accurate, but “climate change” includes the full VIP package: we’re talking freaky weather, shifting rainfall, rising seas, grumpy oceans, and the occasional fire tornado. It’s not just about turning up the thermostat—it’s the whole HVAC system going rogue.

And yeah, bringing up Al Gore as a counterpoint to climate science is like blaming the food pyramid for your cholesterol. Sure, he made a flashy PowerPoint, but the science isn’t riding shotgun with his reputation. Thousands of scientists from every political shade and multiple countries have been working on this, peer-reviewing the heck out of each other. It's less “Gore said so” and more “science said so, repeatedly, with charts.”

Also, in possibly the most unexpected plot twist of 2025: climate change has apparently made squirrels carnivorous. So if you needed one more reason to care, just remember we might be headed for Nature’s actual revenge.

Saying the whole climate change thing is just a scheme for government control and taxes is kind of like saying seatbelts are a plot to ruin your freedom of movement. It skips over the mountain of scientific evidence and jumps straight to conspiracy land. The real reason people are pushing to deal with climate change is because it could seriously mess with stuff we all actually care about—like food, water, homes, jobs, and not getting flattened by increasingly angry weather.

Yeah, tackling it involves policies, tech upgrades, and maybe rethinking how we do business, but it’s not some secret plan to micromanage your life. It’s just a very boring, nerd-heavy effort to avoid a future that looks like a mix between Mad Max and Waterworld.

[mrki444]

Those scientists moved to Europe now because Trump defunded many research

Trump decided shut down NASA satelites which follow CO2 levels. Irony is those satelites even help oil companys for analysis.

[Netherrealmer]

Because Billionaires like him will less make money if people continue to fight climate change, He have an oil business Venezuela, Venezuela always make it to the finals of Miss Universe because of oil not because their women are the most beautiful

[Tendz]

Trump decided shut down NASA satelites which follow CO2 levels. Irony is those satelites even help oil companys for analysis.

Because Billionaires like him will less make money if people continue to fight climate change, He have an oil business Venezuela, Venezuela always make it to the finals of Miss Universe because of oil not because their women are the most beautiful

Sadly money and power seem to matter more to them than the planet or the truth.

[germainebull]

It is not and never has been that American Republicans do not believe in climate change. That is not the question. There is more than enough scientific evidence that wild fluctuations in climate change is part of the history of planet earth, dating back to long before humans had any possible influence.

The issue began quite specifically because Al Gore was at the beginnings of announcing "Global Warming" as a major issue that needed governments to control human activity. If you did not notice, even that term had to be changed to cover any change because it was quickly proven that it was simply not true as a continued global WARMING. People in general are really stupid and will follow any lie without even questioning it. It was easy to convince the masses that there was something to his lie.

His statements were obviously a beginning drive to affect expensive government control over all human life and offensive quite specifically because he proved beyond question that he personally is not capable of telling the truth about anything during his political campaign running for US President. After all, he also claimed that he personally invented the Internet and many other minor details like that during his campaign. He is not trustworthy and anything he said was a lie. It carries forward to anything he says even still.

Climate change is very real and is very much part of Earth's history. The lie is that humans are the cause. It is a natural part of the weather cycle that comes with the planet. Even added data that is documenting human activity during the promotion of this ongoing lie reflects very tiny percentages of anything related to climate change. All this bull that blames climate change on human activity is the objection. The animal kingdom relies on oxygen in the air we breathe. Plant life breathes in carbon dioxide. Animals exhale carbon dioxide and plants exhale oxygen. It is a required exchange that supports life on both sides of the equation. Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere supports plant life. It is not a toxic substance. When there is an abundance of either, life is supported in the air we breathe.

The only reason to blame it on humans is to force control over all human activity and to be forced to obey governmental control and pay fees and added taxes just to live. The number one reason to even question the fairy tale is because Al Gore introduced the concept that humans need to be controlled to control the weather. That is why republicans in general object to the lie.

Is it then to mean that humanity should/must not take action to ameliorate the various ways in which we are destroying the environment? Such as deforestation in the Amazon?