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Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 11 Oct 2025, 04:04

With more and more youngsters leaving the shores to seek greener pastures most seniors are left alone to fend for themselves and that is when Society comes to their rescue

When that happens it is fair that Society is included in the legacy

What are your thoughts on this?
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Netherrealmer » 11 Oct 2025, 23:00

With all those family business closing, because kids do not want to continue the legacy of the family, I noticed a lot of the youth today are rebelling against tradition. They want to cross their own path.But we still have kids who are very submissive to their parents and will listen to everything that their parents say even if it's not good for them.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 12 Oct 2025, 00:46

It is not just about business and children being interested or not interested in carrying on what their parents have started It is also about the property and money that the parents have but when society takes care of them when children have left the shores would it be fair to leave all that for the children?
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Netherrealmer » 12 Oct 2025, 01:06

In Japan, most kids just left their parents' house to rot and not live on it because Japan have a crazy tax law that heavily taxes inheritance. That's why a lot of Japanese kids just left their parents' property to rot. They rather buy a cheaper new property than inherit a property with lots of taxes.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 12 Oct 2025, 01:53

Indis is no less. I just gifted my house to a Charitable Trust and they had to pay a huge amount of stamp duty I find it ridiculous
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Jem Smith » 14 Oct 2025, 08:39

bestwriter wrote:
When that happens it is fair that Society is included in the legacy


What do you mean by this? That people should leave their money to the government, or what?
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 14 Oct 2025, 12:49

Jem Smith wrote:
bestwriter wrote:
When that happens it is fair that Society is included in the legacy


What do you mean by this? That people should leave their money to the government, or what?


Not Government but those who have taken care of you through thick and thin while family has left the shores seeking greener pastures.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Netherrealmer » 16 Oct 2025, 02:51

Speaking of families, there is a pattern in families that I notice these days. This only happens on families with multiple children. A lot of oldest born are forced to be a a third parent. Their parents put so much burden to them to be a caretaker of their younger siblings. And sometimes I feel bad for them because of the pressure they have, forced to be a role model because they have younger siblings.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 16 Oct 2025, 11:00

Netherrealmer wrote:Speaking of families, there is a pattern in families that I notice these days. This only happens on families with multiple children. A lot of oldest born are forced to be a a third parent. Their parents put so much burden to them to be a caretaker of their younger siblings. And sometimes I feel bad for them because of the pressure they have, forced to be a role model because they have younger siblings.


We were several siblings and yes our older siblings took care of us
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby eldavis » 17 Oct 2025, 07:36

Most of the kids who go out there to other countries to find greener pasture, they do this nor for themselves alone, but to also ensure that their parents gets the best as well.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 18 Oct 2025, 00:23

Elderly parents need caring and that is what is lacking when children leave the shores.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Netherrealmer » 21 Oct 2025, 23:36

Those elderly parents who got abandoned by their children are mostly toxic parents. Because if they are loving parents, their kids will never leave them no matter what.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 22 Oct 2025, 00:26

Netherrealmer wrote:Those elderly parents who got abandoned by their children are mostly toxic parents. Because if they are loving parents, their kids will never leave them no matter what.


Are there no selfish children in this world who are known to neglect their parents?
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 22 Oct 2025, 00:42

The family unit came first.
Communities, countries, society, etc. came after.

If we don't have villages, communities, countries, society, etc. and still have family, I could live with that.

If kids leave home to find what they think is a better life, let them go. They might find it and come back to get you so you can have a good life with them!

If they don't find it and they come back home, welcome them back.

In some countries, healthcare is a given. But it's not free. People have paid their hard-earned money into that healthcare system.

So, if you say the government is taking care of them and should take the property as payment instead of the kids who left home inheriting the property of their parents? I don't agree.

The government that's taking care of them is using money they already paid into the system.

When I worked while I raised my kids, I paid into Medicare and Social Security. So the gov't is not taking care of me. They're using MY MONEY!

I'm not sure if I answered the question. (O.o) But the discussion provoked these thoughts.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 22 Oct 2025, 03:19

When I say Society it does not include govenment but those that devote their time taking care of those who are neglected such as Charitable Trusts.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 26 Oct 2025, 03:19

bestwriter wrote:When I say Society it does not include govenment but those that devote their time taking care of those who are neglected such as Charitable Trusts.


OK. I don't know if that happens a lot in America. We do have charity organizations that help people and churches. But ... the fact that there are a lot of homeless people on our streets tells me some people are not being taken care of by their kids or by anybody else.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 26 Oct 2025, 03:40

cmoneyspinner wrote:
bestwriter wrote:When I say Society it does not include govenment but those that devote their time taking care of those who are neglected such as Charitable Trusts.


OK. I don't know if that happens a lot in America. We do have charity organizations that help people and churches. But ... the fact that there are a lot of homeless people on our streets tells me some people are not being taken care of by their kids or by anybody else.


We have old age homes for different levels both rich and poor and the poor are not charged . Charitable Trusts receive donations and in fact my house is gifted to a Charitable Trust where I too am a Trustee.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby Padmavati753 » 26 Oct 2025, 08:41

I appreciate your perspective. Striking a balance between family support and societal responsibility is crucial in today’s evolving landscape.
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby bestwriter » 26 Oct 2025, 09:16

Padmavati753 wrote:I appreciate your perspective. Striking a balance between family support and societal responsibility is crucial in today’s evolving landscape.

The world is changing and whoever cares for you becomes your family
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Re: Family or Society?

Postby germainebull » 27 Oct 2025, 08:57

bestwriter wrote:With more and more youngsters leaving the shores to seek greener pastures most seniors are left alone to fend for themselves and that is when Society comes to their rescue

When that happens it is fair that Society is included in the legacy

What are your thoughts on this?


This is a very touching point. Many elderly people are left alone while young people move to other places in search of a better life. And when the community takes on the role of supporting them—giving them emotional, financial, or even physical support—it shows true humanity. The community becomes like a second family, taking over where blood family is often no longer around.

So saying that the community should be included in the inheritance is not a strange thing. It is recognizing their contribution in action. The inheritance does not have to be just property—it can be in the form of social projects, health care, or even education for others. It is a way to continue the good they have received and make that inheritance more meaningful than just a family.
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