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Postby Danny B. » 28 Apr 2018, 17:08

You know, we all grow-up thinking about college. It is almost like a “dream” that we build up since our early childhood. But is it really OUR dream? or is it our parent’s, friends', society’s and government’s dream?

Not always will college give us what we need in order to accomplish our goals. Shouldn’t we be given that option? To not go to college? And instead, choose to.. I don’t know, become a monk.. or start a business for example!

Gosh, you could go sell hot-dogs if you want(yes, some people have that dream)! But no, you HAVE to go to college, even if your "dream job" is just selling hot-dogs or fried potatoes on the streets.

Many people go trough all that effort, spend 4 years with their butt on the chair, spend a lot of money, only to conclude that, in the end, their goal was not something that college could help them with.

Believe me, I have seen that happen countless times... There are TONS of people out there that got graduated from college, but work with businesses that differ completely from their college degree.

Instead of spending that time and money with some valuable experience, many times people just waste valuable years of their lives.

Many successful people did not go to college, and if they did, they probably wouldn’t have accomplished their goals.

The truth is that college won’t teach you how to be successful in life.

Do you think that if Mark Zuckerberg had given-up on writing facebook code to just stick to college he would have been more succesful than he is today?

I don’t think so! And I’m gonna tell you why: sometimes if you don’t make a move when an opportunity comes, you may not see it again for your whole lifetime! You may just have to focus all your efforts there until you make it, and if you know what you're doing, your life will change completely. I can feel it, it is real for me! But this is not for cowards... This path is for the brave ones, it is the path of life-changing opportunities.

By the way, did you know that nearly a third of the world’s billionaires do not have a bachelor’s degree?

But i’m not talking about money here.. i’m talking about being sucessful and achieving your goals.

Of course, if you want to be a doctor, you must go to college! But my point is, depending on what you want for your life, college should not be seen as an obligation, but rather a choice… Because I believe that, sometimes, it can be a bad one!

Don't get me wrong.. College can be very useful for you, it may even change your life. But sometimes it won't, and only you can understand that. Sometimes you just need to listen to yourself and your intuition.

Do you think it's easy not following the program? Few people have the guts to go that way... That is one of the reasons that this very few are also the ones who are able to make it to the top, or simply really change something in people's lives. You can't do that simply following what everyone else is doing.

Will your parents be upset? Will your friends, colleages, spouses, think you're making a bad decision? Let me tell you this: hardly ever will someone understand you better than yourself, so why do you think that other people will always know what's best for you? Can other people see what you see? Can they feel what you feel? Can they understand what you understand? They might get close to that, but if they do, they will support you and you may trust them. But when you see that they don't have the slightest idea of who you are, my friend.. Then you'll have to make your decisions alone, and believe me when I say you'll be well rewarded for that!
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby suny » 06 May 2018, 03:59

There is a big if and but whether one should go to the college or not. All are not gifted that get success without going to college because their head was buzzing with ideas and all were not interested in selling street food because they wanted to be professionals. So everyone on his own, but I can say one simple thing here- a person that has gone to college can sell hot dogs or work as a toilet cleaner but a person that hasn't can certainly not become an engineer, doctor or a professional. Sorry, I did not intend to oppose your thoughts for sure :thumbup:
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby skysnap » 06 May 2018, 07:58

I actually have opposite thought process on this. I have found college to put some sort of mental accountability and discipline in the mind that one can't get if they skip the college. Not everyone is self motivating. Another thing is unless you go through college and such process you tend to think of "placebo" over process parts of the life.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby fistsworn » 06 May 2018, 14:07

College is important, however I do believe that US costs are ridiculous aswell as me despising loans if not absoluttelly necessary.
-If I where a US student, I'd have my parents have a loan of: 15K, go to college in Europe, 5K for school. 10K to live and repay them back. or pay the loan myself even if under their name if you got it?
Wich isn't as crippling as the other option.

-Also yes, school, colleges and institutions in general are not designed to make you succesfull, they are designed to make you a worker.

The way(s) of thinking that are not taught in college you can observe from the succesfull people you admire. Some even have books about it. So I guess here you apply the saying:

"Succesfull people become that way, because they establish the habit of doing what others don't want to do" like reading warren buffet's biography for example
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Danny B. » 07 May 2018, 20:50

fistsworn wrote:College is important, however I do believe that US costs are ridiculous aswell as me despising loans if not absoluttelly necessary.
-If I where a US student, I'd have my parents have a loan of: 15K, go to college in Europe, 5K for school. 10K to live and repay them back. or pay the loan myself even if under their name if you got it?
Wich isn't as crippling as the other option.

-Also yes, school, colleges and institutions in general are not designed to make you succesfull, they are designed to make you a worker.

The way(s) of thinking that are not taught in college you can observe from the succesfull people you admire. Some even have books about it. So I guess here you apply the saying:

"Succesfull people become that way, because they establish the habit of doing what others don't want to do" like reading warren buffet's biography for example


Yes, that's my point.. I have nothing against people that want to go to college and pursue a bachelors, masters, PhDs.. I just think that it shouldn't be a must-have thing in life you know.. We should have more freedom about that choice, and be able to see the educational system from different perspectives.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Shailabh » 08 May 2018, 08:47

I have done graduate but I don't get any job. I think my education is totally west of time. I learn History, Geography, Economics, Accounting in my syllabus but not useful in my real life. Education quality is worst in India. That's why India is a top country in unemployment.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Sam » 08 May 2018, 10:57

Coming to the end of my undergraduate degree(s), I am a little philosophical on the merits of going to university...

Today's world has become increasingly competitive to the point that to have a well-paying professional career, you do need to be more highly qualified in the past. But there are alternatives: starting a business, gaining an apprenticeship or simply saving lots when you start working are good options. You will likely earn more initially and over your lifetime have the same income as a college graduate. So... money isn't a reason to go to college/ university.

I hate how the university I am at operates and I hate the way one of the departments is run but I did learn a lot in one department in particular: Statistics. And unlike Computer Science and Finance, the information wasn't something I could just pick up. I really appreciate learning and knowledge and (a lot of) the specialized knowledge gained at Uni really will be useful for the rest of your life.

The most important things I learned at Uni have been:
1. Different approaches to problem solving and logical thinking.
2. Critical thinking - especially regarding statistics.
3. Where to find help.
4. Theoretical overviews of what need to be done if you want to do x (build an operating system, run a bank, create a Census).

There are intangible benefits to Uni too:
1. You grow up - but safely... surrounded by other people who are learning too.
2. You make friends and meet really cool and unique people.
3. You become a "small fish" rather than a "big fish" in a small pond. You understand how insignificant you really are.

My advice for anyone wanting to go to Uni: Uni Rankings do not matter, pick something you are genuinely interested in, stick at it (You'll fail), don't cheat, pick a smaller University - smaller classes are better, live away from home (if you can) and most of all: enjoy your time there.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby skysnap » 08 May 2018, 11:01

Shailabh wrote:I have done graduate but I don't get any job. I think my education is totally west of time. I learn History, Geography, Economics, Accounting in my syllabus but not useful in my real life. Education quality is worst in India. That's why India is a top country in unemployment.


Wrong. Unemployment is high because India does minority appeasement over merit. Merit is dead in india. This does not mean entire education is waste. Education quality is poor because education system blindly follows US based pattern. Instead of hands on projects, here the projects are done to pass the system. Instead of quality output people prefer passing the exam for the sake of it. So education is not waste. It's the people who have formed habit around it makes it waste.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby cmoneyspinner » 09 May 2018, 03:10

“The truth is that college won’t teach you how to be successful in life.”

That's a quote worth of re-quoting a million times.

However, the quote I prefer is "Education is priceless."

So even if you don't become successful (by someone's standards of judging one's success), I truly believe you would be even less successful if you were ignorant.

I mean … which is worse?

Having knowledge and being able to choose not to use it, even though you could.

-OR-

Not having knowledge and just being plain old ignorant!

My advice?
If you are blessed to have an opportunity to go to college, DON'T REFUSE IT!
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby suny » 09 May 2018, 03:48

Shailabh wrote:I have done graduate but I don't get any job. I think my education is totally west of time. I learn History, Geography, Economics, Accounting in my syllabus but not useful in my real life. Education quality is worst in India. That's why India is a top country in unemployment.


The education system is best in India provided a student is interest to study. Most students think that college gives them licence to roam around with girls and study during exam times only with the help of the KEY the shortcut of clearing exams. You know, where do the most developed countries of the world hire their top professionals- India. So make your facts right and let me add a simple education of your type of subjects is no good for a good job. Moreover, look for an opportunity in private sector because looking for government job (which has a lifetime guarantee of no work but a fixed salary and perks) will lead a person nowhere. After all no government in the world can provide a job to all graduates, or post graduates or even doctoral degree holders. People in India consider only a government job a real job (I know why but will not mention here)
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby ruthmongare » 05 Jun 2018, 03:08

Shailabh wrote:I have done graduate but I don't get any job. I think my education is totally west of time. I learn History, Geography, Economics, Accounting in my syllabus but not useful in my real life. Education quality is worst in India. That's why India is a top country in unemployment.
I also think that one's course can determine how fast or easily they cab get jobs take example of a course like medicine, its highly marketable and you will rarely miss job.its good if we can always go for technical courses so that we can easily get jobs since they're less crowded.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Happyland » 20 Jun 2018, 13:21

There are many ways to get an education. A book and classroom is only one way out of many. In these fast times in which we live the information learned in university will become outdated by the time you are ready to apply it. Do most people really apply what they learned in school? Probably not; the real world is a whole different kind of game.

There is no true "requirement" to attend school. There are still plenty of pathways and opportunities that exist if someone chooses a different path. It is not the only means to success. Success depends on getting others to see your vision and get on board. It depends on how you apply your skills, qualifications, talents and abilities. We were all created with those gifts. It all depends on how you use them. Success is all in your mind. Never live up to someone else's expectations. Create your own. Have a strong vision, intertwine it with happy thoughts , develop a plan, get advice and execute the plan. Don't succumb to the false evidence of fear.

University does not help you stand out. There are millions of people with a degree all over the world. College helps you fit in and it stimulates the economy.

Does going to school help or hurt? It probably helps because you will pick up some valuable lessons and skills. It depends on the individual. No matter where you receive your education from, we need more ethics, morals, environment and respect taught.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Netherrealmer » 10 Jul 2018, 23:03

A huge number of Billionaires are college dropouts. Being streets smart is definitely better than being booksmart. Booksmarts can even apply what they learned on school in real life because they just memorize them to pass the exam.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby cmoneyspinner » 11 Jul 2018, 02:07

fergus1234 wrote:A huge number of Billionaires are college dropouts. Being streets smart is definitely better than being booksmart. Booksmarts can even apply what they learned on school in real life because they just memorize them to pass the exam.


Yes there are many financially successful people who did not complete their formal education. Those same people donate money to educational institutions and create scholarship funds. WHY do you suppose they do that?

Lots of rich people dropout and actually go back to school and complete their degree program. WHY do you suppose they do that?

I don't know why people these days have such a negative attitude about going to college! :? :?
That just upsets me! :(
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Amans1234 » 11 Jul 2018, 05:47

College should be a choice but not obligation.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby skysnap » 11 Jul 2018, 16:34

Amans1234 wrote:College should be a choice but not obligation.


College is obligation not a choice. Anyone who thinks education is a choice is not fit to lead new generation.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Netherrealmer » 11 Jul 2018, 18:48

Kylie Jenner, Never been to college and a freaking Kardashian sister and we know those siblings are not known to be smart.

Kylie is 100 Million dollars away from becoming a Billionaire at age 21. No Education and she is about to become the Youngest self made Billionaire in history.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby skysnap » 12 Jul 2018, 19:01

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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby ceci » 13 Jul 2018, 07:54

My eldest kid is 9 this year, I am not sure if she want to go for college when the day come or not.
To me, college is an option but not necessary a place to learning for knowledge. I am a Master degree holder.

Anyway, the government should provide free/low cost of college opportunity for the citizens as education is important for building a stronger country for continuous growth.
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Re: Going to College Can Screw Up Your Future

Postby Netherrealmer » 13 Jul 2018, 09:14

I heard online colleges are cheaper.
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