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The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 04 Apr 2024, 15:03

One of Trump's weapon against Biden is his opposition against Gender Affirming Care for children. What is Gender affirming care? It is a law that provides hormones and hormone blockers for children who declares they are trans. So Why Trump is against it?

Some children who declared are they are trans are not even trans, they are either following a trend, peer pressured or worst just forced by their parents.
A huge number of people who transition as trans as children ends up regretting it, some because of health reasons while some realize they are not really trans.Countries that use to have Gender Affirming care bans it because of the increasing number of Detrans or people who regret removing their genitals after realizing their are not really trans.


School teachers can secretly give hormones to your children if they think your child is trans. Many liberal parents transition children as young as 3 years old.


I think a person should at least be 15 to 18 years old and must have multiple opinions from multiple psychologist before they can transition. A lot of surgeons in America will operate on a person who only have 1 session with a psychologist.

I think a person must have multiple opinions from different Psychologists before they get approve for transition because many greedy psychologists approves everyone because they get referral bonus from surgeons.


The ban of Gender affirming care became a debate when people who calls themselves Detrans told their horror stories of transitioning as kids.


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Biden also approves of Transwomen in female sports which Trump wants to ban because its unfair for biological women to compete againts transwomen who still have male organs
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby mrki444 » 06 Apr 2024, 13:24

Netherrealmer wrote:Some children who declared are they are trans are not even trans, they are either following a trend, peer pressured or worst just forced by their parents.


I guess they are all ticktoker or youtubers or any other streamers?
Do you remeber when parents were asked what they want they kids when they grow up? Answers were policeman, firefighter, doctor.
Lately we here answers like youtubers or just be popular.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby sweerie_banana » 09 Apr 2024, 05:28

The opposition to gender-affirming care, particularly when it comes to providing these treatments to children and adolescents, is often rooted in various concerns and viewpoints. Some opponents argue that children may not fully understand the implications of transitioning and that they may later regret irreversible medical interventions. Others may hold religious or moral beliefs that conflict with the idea of gender transition or view it as contrary to traditional understandings of gender and sexuality.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 13 Apr 2024, 15:53

Some who transition as children commits suicide when they realize they are not trans but its too late
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Angie10 » 15 Apr 2024, 06:41

I totally agree, there has to be an age limit! I think at 21, most people are mature enough to make that decision. It should be against the law for teachers to do this without the express permission of the parents.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby mrki444 » 16 Apr 2024, 18:51

Netherrealmer wrote:School teachers can secretly give hormones to your children if they think your child is trans. Many liberal parents transition children as young as 3 years old.


As teacher I would never do this even if law allow me. Also this is worst law ever. Not even parents should not be allowed to this. When kids grow up and become responsible for them self, they can do what ever they want.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby sweerie_banana » 17 Apr 2024, 03:14

I believe teachers shouldn't do this to small kids. They still haven't discovered themselves why would they give the kids at 3 years of age?
The decision to pursue medical interventions, such as hormone therapy, for transgender youth is typically made by medical professionals, in consultation with the child, their parents or guardians, and other relevant parties. It's not within the scope of a teacher's responsibilities or rights to make such decisions.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Presh » 17 Apr 2024, 06:45

America believes in freedom but a person below 20 years old shouldn't be given the freedom to change his or her genitals. It is wrong and unfair to those people who might genuinely not know what they are going into. A country has the obligation to protect it's citizens from mental health issues.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Kalayla » 17 Apr 2024, 06:54

I think Trump is very right on this one. You can't be giving hormones and doing surgery to change genitals with reckless abandon.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Mika » 17 Apr 2024, 17:33

I have nothing against LGBTQ++ but I disagree with a couple of things and one of them how they are influencing the kids. How can kids who have not reached puberty be so sure about what gender they are. They are just living in dilemma.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 17 Apr 2024, 17:41

Just because a boy is feminine it doesn't mean he is trans, he could be gay or just a feminine boy. A lot of straight guys are feminine. Just because a girl is masculine it doesn't meat she is trans, she could be a tomboy, butch lesbian or just sporty. I had met straight tomboys.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby OldGuy » 18 Apr 2024, 01:30

One of my school classmates had the trans surgery after 17 years of marriage to a woman. He/she even came to a 20 year class reunion as a woman and freaked everyone out. It was totally unexpected.

He lived as a woman for the next 10 years before realizing it did not resolve the issues he had imagined. He then transitioned back to a male image but now without his equipment. The last time I heard from him was at least 20 years ago and he told me at that time that the trans surgery was a major mistake.

If someone at that age was confused about the issue, how could a child ever make such a change before truly knowing him or herself?
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Kalayla » 18 Apr 2024, 06:17

It is a barbaric thing to do to a child. These things are not things you rush to do. You take time and take proper counsel and convince yourself absolutely that you want to do it.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Nsikan » 19 Apr 2024, 01:55

I even think that a person should go through a series of at least 10 deep counselling sessions with very deep counsellors before being given the green light to change his genitals because he feels like the opposite gender.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 25 Apr 2024, 17:08

Angie10 wrote:I totally agree, there has to be an age limit! I think at 21, most people are mature enough to make that decision. It should be against the law for teachers to do this without the express permission of the parents.
or even give them the option to save eggs and sperm before surgery so no regrets
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Jem Smith » 28 Apr 2024, 01:20

Yes, some people do end up regretting transitioning, and they aren't supported the way people who want to transition are. Also, some people go into it with unrealistic expectations, not realising that certain surgeries may mean they can never have intercourse, or achieve orgasm. We also don't have very good long term data yet on the effects of taking puberty blockers, so effectively giving this to young people is experimenting on children.

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mrki444 wrote:
Netherrealmer wrote:Some children who declared are they are trans are not even trans, they are either following a trend, peer pressured or worst just forced by their parents.


I guess they are all ticktoker or youtubers or any other streamers?
Do you remeber when parents were asked what they want they kids when they grow up? Answers were policeman, firefighter, doctor.
Lately we here answers like youtubers or just be popular.


I know a teenager who wanted to transition, now two years later she is back to being a "she". Like a lot of young lesbians she was pressured into transitioning. Young women get told that if they are attracted to other girls/women, or behave in certain ways they must be boys.

It really annoys me when people talk about how a boy must be a girl because he likes to play with dolls, or a girl must be a boy because she likes to wear pants and not shave her armpits. We should be past this gender stereotype stuff by now. Let children dress how they want and play with whatever they want.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby ptrikha21 » 28 Apr 2024, 13:00

Sound like some very strange things. In what direction is the society in US going?
And a bit shocking as to what even the Educational Institutions are up to.
Children must be allowed to mature first before making such decisions.
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 28 Apr 2024, 17:36

Its funny how you have to turn 21 to drink alcohol in the US but you can have a life altering Gender affirming therapy and surgery at age 5.Trump says he will ban gender affirming care if he becomes President again after incidents of parents who lost their children because of this law. Basically a teacher can confiscate your child if you disagree that your children should not transition
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 06 Nov 2024, 18:50

ptrikha21 wrote:Sound like some very strange things. In what direction is the society in US going?
And a bit shocking as to what even the Educational Institutions are up to.
Children must be allowed to mature first before making such decisions.


A lot of American men are now preferring to marry foreign women because a lot of American woman intentionally forces their kids to be trans to to follow a trend.

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This help Trump won along with the immigration issue,
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Re: The Gender affiirming care debate

Postby Netherrealmer » 08 Feb 2025, 16:00

Trump finally bans parents from transitioning their kids, You must be over 19 before you can trans now. Also he bans transwomen in women's bathroom and sports.

I notice some of the parents of the transkids, seems to have Munchausen by proxy syndrome. Like their kid is not even trans.
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