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Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby ptrikha21 » 28 May 2025, 14:19

After the recent short India Pakistan conflict and realizing that India wants to add more muscle to its Air Force, two competing parties are vying to sell Fighter jets to India.
Russia's Su-57 vs America's F-35.
The scales are tilted towards Su-57 as Russia is more willing to do the Technology transfer as well.
With F 35, there could be more strings attached plus India's western border enemy has had F 16 planes.

However, some dynamic calculation or big offer from US could tilt the balance.
Or could there be a dark horse like Euro Typhoon Fighter Jet?
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby Netherrealmer » 29 May 2025, 09:02

Russian weapons are not good though, they lose to the Himars which is just a pick up truck with rockets. Russia is now using Iranian drones since Russian weapons lost to Civilian Ukrainians
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby ptrikha21 » 29 May 2025, 13:52

Netherrealmer wrote:Russian wea......Ukrainians

I feel that many weapons from Russia and NATO side have very less to distinguish.
So in some cases, Russian weapons lag and in others, NATO/US ones do.
Yet in terms of historical familiarity, Russian weapons are more preferred by Indian forces barring Attack helicopters, some of which India has purchased from US.
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby cmoneyspinner » 29 May 2025, 18:32

Ever see two dogs in heat mating? (Trump and Putin.)
It's hard to break 'em apart!

Don't buy from Russia OR America?

Indian scientists were smart enough to build nuclear weapons.
Why not build your own fighter jets?

Two American fighter jets fell into the Red Sea.
The jets have not yet been recovered.

Send in some stealth divers and strip the parts.
The equipment is valuable, and you can analyze the wreckage.

Just saying. Think outside the box. :idea:
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby ptrikha21 » 31 May 2025, 11:38

cmoneyspinner wrote:Ever see two dogs in heat mating? (Trump and Putin.)
It's hard to break 'em apart!

Don't buy from Russia OR America?.....


As a matter of fact, our indigenous Light Combat Aircraft manufacturing is work in progress.
There is a company called Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
The delivery of these Aircrafts has been delayed and analysts point to Red Tapism and a lack of work culture (HAL is a Government Firm).
Now, Government has woke up to the idea of more private participation(Tatas, L&T, Mahindra Group etc) but frankly, India as a Nation needs to do much more for Indigenous Science and technology initiatives.

Yes I agree that our scientists have done a lot but the whole ecosystem needs to do a lot.
So to bridge the gap, we do need some external fighter planes.

I am not aware about the Red Sea incident.
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby cmoneyspinner » 02 Jun 2025, 04:37

ptrikha21 wrote:India as a Nation needs to do much more for Indigenous Science and technology initiatives.


SAY IT LOUD! I'M INDIAN AND I'M PROUD!!

(I slightly revised the lyrics from a 1968 James Brown song because the "sentiment" in the words could be applied. https://www.wbur.org/radioboston/2018/0 ... lack-pride ;) )
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby Netherrealmer » 02 Jun 2025, 08:31

Buy drones and Himars, they are the best weapons for war. Tanks and jets are relics of the past. Drones and Himars are the future
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby ptrikha21 » 02 Jun 2025, 15:00

Netherrealmer wrote:Buy drones and Himars, they are the best weapons for war. Tanks and jets are relics of the past. Drones and Himars are the future


Himars?
What are they? Some kind of drone variations?
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby cmoneyspinner » 02 Jun 2025, 19:12

ptrikha21 wrote:Himars


HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) is a lightweight, mobile rocket launcher developed by Lockheed Martin for the U.S. Army. It is mounted on a standard Army truck and can fire a variety of precision-guided munitions, including Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) rockets and Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missiles.

UUUhhh? WHOA!

@Netherrealmer - How do you know these things? :crazy:
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby ptrikha21 » 07 Jun 2025, 09:34

cmoneyspinner wrote:
ptrikha21 wrote:Himars


HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket Syst.....

UUUhhh? WHOA!

@Netherrealmer - How do you know these things? :crazy:


Got it!
It sounds somewhat like Pinaka Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher and in some ways to Barak 8 system.

Netherrealmer has a very keen interest in such topics so may be that is why he gets so much of information !
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Re: Scrambling in progress to make India Buy new fighter jets : Russian Su-57 vs American F 35

Postby cmoneyspinner » 09 Jun 2025, 19:45

ptrikha21 wrote:Netherrealmer has a very keen interest in such topics so may be that is why he gets so much of information !


Netherrealmer seems to have a keen interest in everything! I'm always amazed at the information he shares. From celebrity gossip to politics and world news to random obscure facts nobody even thought of.

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